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I have a female spider that I am trying to figure out what other morph to breed her to. I have a male spider that I will be breeding to a female super pastel and a female pastel, so bumblebees and killer bees are already in the works. But what other cool morph can I make with my female spider? Basically what kind of male would you buy if you were me and what would you create? Be as creative as you want. Thanks

what about a black pastel?

How about spinners, honey bees, albino spiders, g-stripe spiders, pied-spiders, axanthic spiders etc etc.

Basically you can do whatever you want with spiders. Check out NERD's site and peruse the many, many options

-John

So many possibilities.

My favorites: Spinners, Lesser Bee, Spider Pied, Albino Spider, Honey Bee, Axhantic Bee.
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Deborah

spider pied!! and honey bee!! boadave

i would go with a black pastel or cinny... or even a sable. try to darken the spider. that my opinion.
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There is only 2 things u got in this world, Your Word & Your Balls !

Just checking, you know that spider X super pastel can't produce killer bee the first generation, right? The baby only gets one copy of each gene from each parent so it can't get two pastel mutant copies of the pastel gene from mom. To produce a super pastel you need pastel on both sides. Bumblebee X Pastel could produce killer bee because the bumblebee has a copy of the pastel mutation to give along with the separate spider gene.

I'd go with a pied for your spider female. I really like the spider pieds but some don't.

What exactly are honeys? anyone have some pics of them? Also pied spiders sound awesome. I have 2 het pieds that I will prove out. If I take a male pied and breed him to the feale spider, that should give me spider pieds correct? Anyone have any pics of a spider pieds

I think honey bees are ghost spiders. Basically two copies of the ghost mutant version of the ghost gene (i.e. needs to be on both sides) and one copy of the spider gene. So you would need a spider that is at least het ghost to be able to produce one.

Same sort of thing with spider pied. Since piebald is recessive in order to show as a piebald an ball would need to be homozygous for piebald so would need to inherit pied from both sides. If you cross a piebald with a spider you would hopefully get a male spider that is het for piebald and then breed it back to an already adult female het piebald to have a shot at producing spider piebald. So far the spider piebalds have been all white except for a mostly yellow head.

If you want to go with a recessive cross (ie spider pieds or honeybees) instead of using hets - you might want to find someone that has a visual that they might want to do a breeder loan with you for a split of the clutch that way you don't have to deal with possible hets.

Just a thought.
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Tosha
JET Pythons

(CJBianco explaining the origins of the BP market.)
"In the beginning Bob created the Ball Python market. And the market was without morph, and wild traits were upon the industry. And Bob said, Let there be morph, and there was morph. And Bob saw the morph, that it was good; and Bob divided the morph from the wild trait. And Bob called the morph Albino, and the wild trait Normal. And the Albino and the Heterozygous Albino were the first investment.
-- Christopher 1:1-1:5"