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I recently picked up an unidentified snake from a friend. From what I've heard, and what I can see, I think it is an American Rat Hybrid/Integrade. I posted on the "Snake:What Kind?" forum, but thought this might be a good place to try as well. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Mike

looks like its got some pitouphus in it, thats all i can say
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven

>>looks like its got some pitouphus in it, thats all i can say
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>>jake
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>>my addiction:
>>0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
>>0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
>>0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
>>1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
>>0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
>>hybrid breeders association
>>hybrid haven
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Mark

I originally thought it may be a Fox Snake, or perhaps of the Genus Deppei, but do not really work w/ colubrids, so I've been perplexed. Thanks, and any more info is appreciated.

It reminds me somewhat of a bull x rat snake, especially the pattern and head/neck shape.

Mate an Everglades (orange) ratsnake to an Iowa (black with orange between the scales) ratsnake and the result will look like the copperheaded snake you have. I don't know if your snake is the product of such a cross or if it is a natural intergrade but it does not appear to be any Pituophis in it.

Bigfoot

Interesting....that's the first time that cross was suggested...I'm going to try to get some feedback on the Rat snake forum. Thanks for the input.
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Mike Curtin

Thats a greenish rat snake! Ken