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I love the smell...

Rolf Aug 18, 2007 02:42 PM

...of eggs hatching in the morning. Smells like, Victory.

Laid June 24, started hatching today, Aug 18. 56 days at 87-88f. Seems a little short to me, Tom, if you're out there - how long did yours take? How are they doing and how many did you end up with?

Enjoy the pics!

-Rolf

Serpentes Pacifica

Replies (16)

zach_whitman Aug 19, 2007 02:13 AM

Are those white lips? If so, nice job. I hope there are more pics coming.

TimS Aug 19, 2007 11:55 AM

i thought tom was the only one ith them lol more pics please im a pic junky when it comes to hatching lol as far as i know about toms i asked a while backl for a update he had 2 eggs go bad off the bat pretty much and on aug 6. it was 48 days and starting to dimple so he should be here posting pics lol anywhos congrats if one of them happens to be tame i want lol im dying for a tame white lip but more important a tame CB white lip lol

Rolf Aug 19, 2007 12:35 PM

In my excitement yesterday morning I didn't realize the pictures I posted were not super clear. Hopefully this one shows one of the little guys a bit better.

TimS - I think these guys get a bad rap for temperament. My adults are really mellow. As babies, they're jumpy like most other pythons, but with a little handling, they seem to get used to you.

I'll take and post more pics as they come out of their eggs.

-Rolf

TimS Aug 19, 2007 08:07 PM

i think you need to e-mail me when they are out of the egg lol

Tom Keogan Aug 19, 2007 11:40 PM

Hey guys! I just got back from Daytona tonight! The white lipps had started hatching 8/16/07 the day I was leaving and when I got back 13 were out and 1 had not hatched. I got a few pics and will post them when I have more time to upload. Thanks Tom

Rolf Aug 20, 2007 05:11 PM

These guys are actually gold phase. As babies, they are almost indistinguishable. I have a couple of black phase babies, I should probably post comparison pics.

Wulf Aug 22, 2007 01:00 AM

Congrats!

Nice ones Hopefully they feed readily soon!

Well, as been said, the golden and the black WLPs look quite similar as hatchlings and will for about the first half a year. First the belly and the tail get lighter in color and at last there will be the violet dorsally and the yellow flanks. Anyway, the black WLP hatchlings are longer than the golden ones.

Cheers,
Wulf
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TimS Aug 22, 2007 01:07 AM

thanks for the info on that i never knew that about WLP they both rock lol i love the blacks but makes me want a gold to see color change

Wulf Aug 22, 2007 03:20 AM

Hi Tim,

well, actually, it isn't that spectacular to see them change their color. It's not comparable to GTP's color change.
The change in WLPs is more a long term thing. It's very slow and, if you don't take them out of the cage every week, you'll probably miss the subcaudals and ventrals turning from dirty brownish to white! What I have seen in all of my offsprings is more interesting: After about a year of age, their frontal scale (the big bell-shaped head scale) breaks apart and you can see the white skin. From that time on, the head starts to grow in width and they get the typical wide triangular head shape. After a couple of sheds the head scales are ok again... I wonder if anybody else has observed this in his WLP youngsters?

Cheers,
Wulf
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TimS Aug 22, 2007 01:38 PM

wow now i really want one it may not be as cool as the green tree change to you but i get excited watching my jungle carpets change over time or yeah my green tree was awesome change lol even my bearded dragon change color over time its just a really cool thing to me and i have always loved white lipps but my very bad experiance with them has shyed me away from them. but now im seeing a few ppl have true captive breds it has me thinking again and that head scale thing you were talking about that is awesome also. seems like snakes just keep amazing me every day with learning somethign new.

Wulf Aug 22, 2007 02:02 PM

Hi Tim,

well, WLPs are one of the most interesting python snakes I know. Apart from having a bad reputation, which they actually don't deserve, they are very cool snakes! The throw up furballs, they are one of the most soundy python snakes, talking to you; they sometimes sleep in upside-down positions; they strike faster (=speedier) than most other snakes, and they are for sure one of the most beautiful pythons around. I love these pythons! make yourself happy and get yourself some of these again. I bet you won't regret it

Cheers,
Wulf
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TimS Aug 22, 2007 03:57 PM

im thinking about it and waiting on the money to be right when i got mine from a certain place i wont say the name but i said it in another post both mine were claimed to be tame as kittens diddnt even bite when sexed etc and captive bred well yeah needless to say a week and a half the female died after i got her and 3 weeks later the male died the female arrived in deep shed and went straight to her water dish and lets just say niether one ws close to tame at ALL

this is what the in shed female did the second i set her in her cage after geting her out the deli cup and stayed there for 10 mins. litteraly

and the pretty "tame" lol to funny male
both these guys were biting and pissin on me as much as they could while they were alive and i only held them to chang paper when shed or pooped etc.

Rolf Aug 21, 2007 02:46 AM

They're all out of the eggs now. I'll be putting them into individual bins probably tomorrow.

-Rolf

TimS Aug 21, 2007 12:27 PM

i just cant balieve those are golds just blows my mind. those are alot of lil buggers what was final egg to baby count? i seen 12 but im sure more are hiding underneath each otehr lol. now that you have successfully bred them and hatched them time to find the one out of the droup with the best temper start working with him and send him to me

phoerner Aug 22, 2007 02:18 AM

Great Job, when do I get my pair?
Phil
rodents4u.com

Rolf Aug 22, 2007 04:37 PM

Hi Phil-

Good to hear from you - I have to get them feeding first, which may take a little time. But I may have something else for you the next time we meet up... Take care.

-Rolf

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