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I use wood shavings for my BP enclosures, the people I got them from said they had been using Pine and advised I use Pine.
Pine is toxic correct?
How much wood shavings are you using in your enclosures? I am using glass bottom enclosures, just curious how much shavings would be correct, 1/2" 1" 2" etc, etc .. ???
Thanks!!
that is 100% incorrect.
Cedar is toxic, pine is used by many animal/reptile owners.
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Brian Oakley
Phoenix, Arizona
BrianOakley@qwest.net
it depends on what size shavings you are using. If they are big chunks it does not take much to cover the bottom. If it is finely shaved pieces I would put more in there as it will pack down. There is no right or wrong amount as far as depth, but I personally, if I were to use it at all would make it about 1/2-1" deep.
I personally use paper, but that is what works for me.'
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Brian Oakley
Phoenix, Arizona
BrianOakley@qwest.net
I agree with Brian. I keep my ball on pine shavings with absolutely no ill effect. No skin abnormalities or respiratory issues. Zippo. She sheds in one piece without issue. And, pine seems to stand up well to occasional dumped water bowls.
Pine is fine. Cedar is bad.
Every reptile care sheet on the net (VPI, NERD, etc) says that both pine and cedar are oily woods and are toxic to reptiles?
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~* Jen *~
Technically pine is where turpentine comes from 
. Sounds bad, yes? Many people use aspen instead.
Quig
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I have noticed that almost every website that offers information regarding wood substrates being toxic says one or the other and some say both ... thats why I just went with the Aspen thinking it was the safe choice.
I am going to go with a thin layer of shavings on the bottom of the enclosure, the more substrate there is the cooler the top of the substrate will be and the less belly heat ... now that I think about it newspaper probably is the best as its basicly free and it would allow the most belly heat as the paper wouldnt be such a layer like shavings.
Thanks for the replys! Appreciate it!
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