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This guy was just born on 8/19/07 he is the result of breeding a Frank Martin Hypo "het jag" X Frank Martin Hypo "het jag". I think he is just stunning. This pic is pre-shed. I will post a post shed pic once he sheds.

Let me know what you all think.

Thanks

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Joe Deavers
J & S Reptiles
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Must of did the image wrong but if you right click on the word image and chose show image it will load.

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Joe Deavers
J & S Reptiles
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Ok so the right click doesn't work in Internet Explorer but it does work on Firefox. Here's a link right to the pic.

http://www.jandsreptiles.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=268

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Joe Deavers
J & S Reptiles
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Here it is but I thought the Jaguar was a Dominant or Co-Dominant mutation. Wouldn't that mean there aren't any hets? Also, I thought that the Jaguars were inverse tail stripe animals. Help me out here. Clarify this for me please.

Oh, here is the critter:

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I am not sure of the inheritance properties of the Jaguar trait (ie. I dont know if it is Dominant or Co-Dominant but I think I remeber it being Co-Dominant since I believe I have heard the term 'super jaguar' used), but either way there are still hets.

Heterozygous refers to the presence of a non matching gene pair. For example Hypomelansim is a Dominant trait and a heterozygous hypo has one hypomelanistic gene paired with one 'normal' wild type gene. Similarly Motley is a Co-Dominant trait and a non'super' motley is heterozygous motley, having one motley gene paired with one 'normal' wild type gene.

Hope this cleared things up.
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- Jason F.

I believe Mr. Ronne was stating that any boa with the jaguar gene should display the trait (phenotypically). For example, any boa with the motley trait is either a motley or a super motley. Unless the jaguar is a recessive trait, all "hets" will have a jaguar or super jaguar (if it exist) phenotype.
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Phil Goss
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I could have very easily mis-read the post and if that is the case I appologize. I do agree with the statement that if the Jaguar trait is either dominant or co-dominant then a carrier of a gene should display the trait to some degree.

Makes me think about the last Hamburg show I was at when I asked to look at an arabesque. After telling the man it was beautiful but too highly priced for me, he said that he had a het arabesque that he could sell me cheaper and showed me a normal looking boa. I told him 'I thought arabesque was a dominant trait', knowing full well that it was. He said 'you dont get all arabesques when you breed them, you know'. That was as far as my lesson was willing to go as he decided to then attend to another customer.

Again sorry for the confusion.
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- Jason F.

LOL, so are your hets Jaguars or normal appearing animals?

A single dose Hypo is "het for Hypo" but I never refer to my Hypos as "hets". Of course a Motley is "Het for Motley" but again I never refer to them as such. So when I read "Het for Jaguar", I'm thinking het for Jaguar? Meaning a non-expressed het for Jaguar? AS in simple recessive?

I'm not really confused on the het thing, I just thought that the Jaguar is a Co-Dominant mutation and "hets" would be Jaguars never referred to by anyone, I have ever talked with, as "hets" but Jaguars.

So, are the "Het for Jaguars" that produced this baby Jaguars or not?
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Joe you told me in your emails that they were produced from a JaguarXGhost breeding no???

Greg

>>This guy was just born on 8/19/07 he is the result of breeding a Frank Martin Hypo "het jag" X Frank Martin Hypo "het jag". I think he is just stunning. This pic is pre-shed. I will post a post shed pic once he sheds.
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>>Let me know what you all think.
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>>Thanks
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>>Joe Deavers
>>J & S Reptiles
>>http://www.jandsreptiles.net

No Greg.

The male pictured is from a different litter. As far as the het jag deal. I'm going by what I was told when I purchased my animals from frank. The pictured male was from a Martin Hypo "het jag" x Hypo "het jag". The other animals that you are talking about are from the Jag X Ghost. Those have all shed and fed atleast 3 times now. This guy hasn't even shed yet as of today. Notice the " " for het jag. That's what Frank told me when I bought them. The parents of the pictured male have no striping at all. The female only had 5 live and 10 slugs. 4 hypos and 1 normal. The pictured animal is the only one with any striping at all. Maybe Frank can shed some light on the Jag gene being Dominant or Co-Dom. I'll have to email him and find out. But this animal came from 2 animals with no striping at all.

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Joe Deavers
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