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Choosing a new snake

trainingday Aug 24, 2007 12:41 AM

Ok so Im NOT going to mix my snakes together! The only thing I need to know now is which snake is a good snake for a beginner that has vertical eyes. I dont wanna spend crazy money maybe around 200 dollars at most. I also dont want a tiny snake, I want one thatll get about 3-4 feet long at least. And dont say to get a corn snake because I cant stand how thin those things are they are gross. Preferably id like one thats nicer looking. maybe a red or a green. I think ETBs and GTPs are beautiful but I know there not at all good for beginners.

Replies (10)

hoot Aug 24, 2007 07:21 AM

Spotted pythons have vertical pupils, stay relatively small (up to about 3 feet), are easy to care for (once started). They aren't very colorful, being brown with darker brown spots, but do have an iridescent shine to them, somewhat like a rainbow boa. They aren't heavy bodied like a bp, built more like a kingsnake. I've seen them priced anywhere from $70 to $125.

Steve

markg Aug 24, 2007 12:52 PM

A Children's python or a spotted python makes a fantastic pet. They look and act like the python giants but are under 4ft usually. Mine got heavier bodied than any kingsnake. If they came in albino they would be the next big thing for sure. Cool, exotic looking snakes.
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Mark

Clydesdale Aug 24, 2007 12:52 PM

Rosy boas, sand boas, ball pythons...

African house snakes have vertical pupils but they're "thin" like a corn.

That's all I can think of right now.

Paul Hollander Aug 24, 2007 12:53 PM

Most green snakes are considered difficult because of temperament or feeding problems.

Take a look at a Brazilian rainbow boa. It is orangey and slit pupilled. Not the snake I'd recommend as a first snake, but it's not impossible as a first snake either, in my opinion. It's certainly far easier than a tree boa.

Paul Hollander

rainbowsrus Aug 24, 2007 03:30 PM

Like Paul said, not a "beginner" snake but not really that hard to care for with the right enclosure is actiually quite easy.






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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

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And those are only the breeders

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goregrind Aug 26, 2007 07:26 AM

aside from color you describe a ball python.

blood pythons are more red and much fatter but are alittle harder to care for
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven

trainingday Aug 26, 2007 11:45 AM

How are Jungle carpets for pets?
I know these are large snakes, But how big of a tank would Ineed?
ive already got a second 20 gallon tank and my friend is holding a 70 gallon one for me, would that be large enough to house an adult carpet python?
how about Irin Jayas?
there really pretty
Diamond x Jungles are also quite nice.
I don't really like the look of Rosy, sand or rubber boas.
there head to body ratio is jus kinda gross.
how big do just normal boas get? do they handle well?
are all variations of boas pretty intermediate snakes to care for?
how big do king snakes, corn snakes and milk snakes get in girth?
I know they start off very small but I hear they can get kind of thick.
Sorry for asking so many questions. But I wanna make sure I get it right.

anuraanman Aug 26, 2007 10:51 PM

these aren't red or green (as adults) but they are pretty cool in my mind. Take a look at the Black Milksnake. They are pretty heavy as milk/kingsnakes go and start off as a typical red/white/black snake. As they get older they gradually turn jet black and can get up to 76 inches long though 60 inches is more typical. They also start out pretty scrawny but get bulkier as they age. I don't know what it is about them but I just love large jet black snakes

Lampropeltis triangulum gaigeae

goregrind Aug 27, 2007 07:11 PM

they are actualy the biggest milk, a very intersting pet, and great for a beginner.

whatever you choose just make sure to do lots of research before you buy.

also, dont bother going to petstores looking for anything, always go with a respectable breeder
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven

goregrind Aug 27, 2007 07:24 PM

a carpet would fit in a 20 gallon for a little while but youll need to upgrade, dont bother trying to ask if it will fit in a cage based on gallons, thats a liqiud measurement and most of the 70 gallon tank is made by hieght (wich snakes dont need alot of) all that matters is floor dimension.

a good rule for space is at least 1'wide X 6" tall X 2/3 body length.

also, aquariums are made for fish, its hard to keep tempeture, humidity and snakes in them. try cages meant for snakes (like vision or boa plastics), or buy/ build a rack for $300-1000, even rubbermaid/ sterilite containers can also work well if you want to build you own enclosures (ask and many will give you tips)
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven

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