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Ocular Albinism. Never heard of it in a snake before. Usually associated with vision problems, and is heritable. Curious trait, did it pop up in snakes not known to carry the "regular" albino gene? I don't believe it is actually associated with it, this is a seperate albino trait. Don't know how others will feel, but not a trait you would want to reproduce, in my opinion. My be useful for those doing research on the genetics of it or something though...

Very cool! Never seen anything like it... but in ball pythons that would be called a Paradox albino... or perhaps a reverse paradox albino. I'd also like to know what the sire and dam are...
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Thats a freaky looking snake man! I have never heard of a partial albino gene like that. Keep us posted on that one for sure.

First of all, it's NOT normal!.....second question is,...what is it?, it looks like a Pueblan/Honduran Hybrid or something close to that.

Not just the eyes, but the head portion as well is amelanized.
That's definitely a strangely unique animal!, but I'm not much on hybrids at all,.....lots of them look very cool, but hybridizing pretty much goes against my grain(and many others)

Aside from all that, it is still really bizarre and will get lots of looks for sure!!

best regards, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

a Splotched Albino?

what the hell is it?
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.kingpinreptiles.com
^ Updated 8/27

this was from a breeding of a albino male possible het anery which he proved because i got a snow from him and the female is possible het anery and albino which she also proved this are no hybrids at all. i think i bouth this from Mike falcon about 2-3 years ago i need to check my records. i only have milksnakes and ball pythons in my collection.

Mike Falcon, I'm totally SHOCKED that he would have even concidered selling it!!!!!!.....that seems insane on his part!

But that's just my opinion though,.....very strange indeed!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

i hatched the baby from a pair of snakes i bought from him a few years ago along with a couple others

nice score then you will have to keep him/her and try breeding back to one of the parents hopefully it is something genetic and not just a fluke.
adam
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hybrid breeders association
1.1 sinacorns
1.1 crimson corns
1.1 striped ghosts
1.1 kenyan sand boas
1.1 mbk
1.1 albino corns
1.1 childrens python
1.3 ghost corns
1.0 butter
1.0 snow corns
1.0 jurassic milk
1.0 house snake
0.1 anery pueblacorn
0.2 bloodred
0.1 eastern milk (eatin pinks)
0.1 striped albino corn
0.1 albino nelsons
0.1 anery motley
0.1 albino banded cal king
0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
0.1 hypo tang hondo
0.1 rosy boa

i hope its not a fluke but we will see thanks

That makes MUCH better sense to me!LOL!
I was under the impression that Mike sold you THAT particular youngster a few years ago,.....I got ya!.....WOW! if the parents came from him, then I guess you do have a "pure" Honduran there!!

To my knowledge, he doesn't dabble in hybrids at all, just tries to refine things more for their desired traits.

Mikes a very nice guy as well, with some super animals!!
As a matter of fact, I got a couple nice animals from him at the Daytona show.

Those tight arching black rings in the triads are VERY uncommon for hondurensis as well!!.....I also noticed in the photo that a few dark bands towards the tail are "hypomelanized" much more so than the other bands................cool animal!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

i am surprised with the animal myself get this first year breeding these animals and hatching myself its like winning the lottery just no money involved

Well, no money YET!!!!!! anyway, but don't be at all surprised to never see the trait expressed in the future, but then again, stranger things have happened in nature, certainly not just snakes!!

I wish you all the best in your future project!

~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

from mike and produce this guy or did you but this guy from mike?
because i could see you producing this animal but i cant see someone selling it.
the albino head with the regular body looks awesome i have no other words to describe it other that WOW!!!
i have a buddy that has a ghost that has partial amounts of blood red coming through it looks like 2 differant snakes merged partially into one, similiar to yours looking like it has the body of one snake and the head of another
adam
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hybrid breeders association
1.1 sinacorns
1.1 crimson corns
1.1 striped ghosts
1.1 kenyan sand boas
1.1 mbk
1.1 albino corns
1.1 childrens python
1.3 ghost corns
1.0 butter
1.0 snow corns
1.0 jurassic milk
1.0 house snake
0.1 anery pueblacorn
0.2 bloodred
0.1 eastern milk (eatin pinks)
0.1 striped albino corn
0.1 albino nelsons
0.1 anery motley
0.1 albino banded cal king
0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
0.1 hypo tang hondo
0.1 rosy boa

Doubt it's a Honduran Milksnake.

it is a honduran. anyone is more than welcome to see my collection along with doing a scale count. this snake was produced by me from dam and sire purchased from Mike Falcon a few years ago

....since albinos seem to be just something of polyzona x ??? and the anerys do have some stuarti influence as well, I would not call this "honduran" anymore at all .

Anyway nice snake.

Gerrit

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Never seen anything like that in hondos before, but it does remind me of the pied-splotched sinaloans. They often have pied spots on their heads and tails. Very crazy looking snake.

Best,
vinny
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I have seen something like this is Balls but not Hondurans. Keep us updated on what you plan to do with this little guy.
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."

I am keeping him or her see what happens and produces

very cool, kinda looks like appleagets splotched siniloans? could be same type of gene working there.

cool snake man,
shannon

thanks are you going to be at the IRBA show this september i might bring it by

I will be at the N.A.R.B.C. in Anaheim next weekend.I may show up at the irba show in october in san diego.

shannon