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As many of you already know, I have 1.0 anery and 0.2 het anery BRB's coming from Brian Sharp. Sadly one of the hets passed away during the night. She was eating and doing fine and then all of a sudden - gone. Of course Brian is going to refund that portion of the transaction. And to top it off, the temps have warmed back up so no shipping this week. Maybe it's best the temps have delayed my getting them here. Woulda been much more sticky had she passed away in my care.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

wow, that's terrible. I wonder what could've happened. Will you be having your vet find the cause of death? If you do, please post it, it's kinda scary for me to think that it could just suddenly pass away like that, and I would love to add something to my list of things to watch out for.
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

oh, duh, I read the post so fast i missed the part about it dying while in sharp's care. oops, of course you won't know the cause of death.
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

>>oh, duh, I read the post so fast i missed the part about it dying while in sharp's care. oops, of course you won't know the cause of death.
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>>-Jasmine
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>>1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
>>(Mercutio and Kajika)

lol opps I read it wrong as well... I thought they passed during shipping -
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."

Sorry to hear about this loss, that is great that Brain is giving a refund.

I recently purchased two snakes and we both decided to wait on shipping since it’s been so hot on the east coast.

Shipping is such a tricky thing because even with detailed planning you can’t know how the carrier will treat your package or if Mother Nature will change, weather is hard to predict. I am not sure how Fed/Ex treats live animals on the plane, so I assume they are in cargo with no AC/Heat which makes the need to worry about temps/weather conditions in each state in transit. I still have a hard time shipping snakes.
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."

Sorry to hear about this loss. I feel for you, as you have the diverse collection of animals to really use the anery genetics she would have provided.
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Mike

6.7 BRB
1.2 Spotted Python
1.0 Cal. King

To clarify, yes the babies are still with Brian Sharp, not shipped yet. So totally his responsibility.

Does feel wierd though, other than babies that were stillborn, this is the first BRB I've lost in a long time. Even had names picked out for the trio. RIP Swee' Pea

She would have been a valuable addition to the collection. Her presence in my collection would have taken my second year capacity from two litters of anery/het anery to three. Fortunately she was not a key breeder in the project. I will still use the male as planned to outcross with some of my various females for hets that are only 50% related to the line.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

@$$ big time sorry to hear about that. i really think this is what can go wrong must go wrong with reptile week there have ben alot of bad with reptiles in this past week starting with 4 MIA snakes in the past 3 days between my girls brothers and friends of mine

That is defintely a bummer. I wonder what could ahve caused the death? Perhaps a birth defect? At least you will still have your other female het and the male anery.
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Aubrey Ross

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www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

I'm so sorry to hear that Dave cuz that extra het female for any brb morph since all our proven recessive so far comes in very handy especially in the off years for some of your females but all you can do is what you can do and nothing more. I'll say a prayer for your breeding program but I have to tell you that it still looks strong from here and keep your head up
Bob

Whilst I am sorry to hear about the demise of the anery. I would definitely agree with you on its timing. It would have been a bad situation in regards to "recouping" the money spent. ( although I believe he would have refunded the money, just smoother all around... the way it went down ).

From what you described it sounds like something went wrong during the digestion process. I have seen this phenomenon in neonate colubrids. They ate, within 1 day they died. There was a black/greenish area on their venter where rodent lump was located. In the times I have seen it, the prey animal could not have just merely putrefied, something went wrong that lead to the death of the animal, which happened too quickly for the prey to be regurgitated. Best described as a hole in one of their pipelines. It is best that it happened under his care then yours.

Being somewhat cold in nature...I would think while it is somewhat of a disappointment, you could not have developed a bond with the animal resulting in true heart felt sadness.

Well unless you are "fragile" emotionally.

Yes I am somewhat cold...like ice sometimes...especially when compiled with my pessimistic nature...
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Not cold at all, just a realistic outlook. I feel much the same way, yeah it's too bad she passed but I'm way better off that it happened the way it did.

LOL, cold, this being told to the man who just now pinched a small rat's throat so it'd be fully dead before "chasing" it down a snakes throat aftetr a mouse appetizer. Yes, I killed the feeder with my bare hands. IMO, ya gotta do what ya gotta do!! The snakes are my babies, the rats are a necessary evil!

BTW, not my preferred method of dispatching a feeder.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I have killed my share off prey animals. Rabbits, GP, Adult Chickens, birds, rodents (all kinds available)frogs toads salamanders other snakes, too many to list lol.

Also for example...not just as snake food in some instances...I also cull animals I see unfit...like if I bred lucy ratsnake's...I would most definitely cull any with bug eyes...kinks...etc....king snake food as far as I am concerned...also when I was 11 I worked in pet store...this man came in once a month and got 2 dozen rats...fresh killed for his pythons...yep my job was to kill and box the warm twitching food source....tail swing to edge of sink trick...a bit messy ...all my snakes eat frozen thawed and warmed prey except a few of my firnds ball pythons I am housing for him...so I rarely play the grim reaper rodent game any more...lol
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

kill all those lovely little animals with them cute little faces without me lol

Leaving lepidoptera - please, don't touch the display,
little boy, aha cute! Moving to the next aisle we have
arachnida, the spiders, our.. finest collection.
This friendly little devil is the heptothilidi,
unfortunately harmless. Next to him, the nasty licosa
raptoria, his tiny fangs cause creeping ulcerations of
the skin *laugh*. And here, my prize, the Black
Widow. Isn't she lovely?.. and so deadly. Her kiss is
fifteen times as poisonous as that of the rattlesnake.
You see her venom is highly neurotoxic, which is to say
that it attacks the central nervous system causing
intense pain, profuse sweating, difficulty in
breathing, loss of consciousness, violent convulsions
and, finally.. death. You know what I think I love the
most about her is her inborn need to dominate,
possess. In fact, immediately after the consummation
of her marriage to the smaller and weaker male of the
species she kills and eats him - *laugh* oh, she is
delicious.. and I hope he was! Such power and dignity
- unhampered by sentiment. If I may put forward a
slice of personal philosophy, I feel that man has ruled
this world as a stumbling dimented child-king long
enough! And as his empire crumbles, my precious Black
Widow shall rise as his most fitting successor!

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

lol nice

these rats in the world so you can take them out as YOU see fit lol (j/k PETA now go get Michael Vick lol)
Bob

omg dont get me started on PETA even tho they support animal cruilty and death oops did i say that out loud lol

.>>As many of you already know, I have 1.0 anery and 0.2 het anery BRB's coming from Brian Sharp. Sadly one of the hets passed away during the night. She was eating and doing fine and then all of a sudden - gone. Of course Brian is going to refund that portion of the transaction. And to top it off, the temps have warmed back up so no shipping this week. Maybe it's best the temps have delayed my getting them here. Woulda been much more sticky had she passed away in my care.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>24.36 BRB
>>19.19 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

School is starting up again and I won't be on the forum much for the next few weeks. I just read your post now. Very sorry to hear about this. Was it due to the high temps we've been having?
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

They are still with Brian Sharp, the lil one passed away in his care so I don't know what happened.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Mike,
...My wife is a teacher. She went back to work this week and she is already getting grouchy.
Good luck,
Jeff

>>School is starting up again and I won't be on the forum much for the next few weeks. I just read your post now. Very sorry to hear about this. Was it due to the high temps we've been having?
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>>Mike Lockwood
>>www.tooscaley.com

Dave,
...Do you have any idea if there may be problems with the Sharp anerythristic bloodline? How are the ones you have doing with eating and growing? We do not talk much about the regurge problem that some peple have had with some lines of the hypos. I do know there is a durability problem with the Walsh Clown Phase animals. Most of them from the original litter have been problem animals and as far as I know my one remaining female is the only abberant survivor from the litter. People have found problems in some of the Bci morph lines and have opined that it may be due to lack of genetic diversity in the bloodlines. Perhaps something to think about. I generally do not get too excited about a few generations of captive inbreeding but perhaps some of the morph bloodlines represent a strange happenstance of inbreeding in the wild continuing for hundreds of generations before we silly humans finally "discover" the morph.
Jeff

>>As many of you already know, I have 1.0 anery and 0.2 het anery BRB's coming from Brian Sharp. Sadly one of the hets passed away during the night. She was eating and doing fine and then all of a sudden - gone. Of course Brian is going to refund that portion of the transaction. And to top it off, the temps have warmed back up so no shipping this week. Maybe it's best the temps have delayed my getting them here. Woulda been much more sticky had she passed away in my care.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>24.36 BRB
>>19.19 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Jeff,

All good points, the two I have from last year are both strong eaters, right up there with any of my normals. Actually my largest 06's but they are also a bit older. Have had zero problems with them.

Of course my plan is to outcross them with my normals (and hypos) over time to diversify the bloodlines.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats