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No one replied yet with picks of cinny x fire or cinny times vanilla, so here's the pic of my cinny hatchling from the light greenish mother compared to the other cinny I hatched from another clutch. Same father, different mothers. It's the partial stripe and the silverish color that's making me wonder if mom has something going on.

I have better pics of the new hatchling, which is the bottom snake, but I'm having trouble with photobucket.

Just the new hatchling.

IT loosk like the cinnies I produce from my Graziani line cinny.......in the pic of the 2 compared to each other the one on the top is rather plain and drab ( ugly ) the bottom one if a much better looking cinny.

IT does not appear to be a cross.

Jared H

for your opinion and your explanation of what plain and drab mean (sarcasm).

I agree. I just hatched out four black pastels and they all look different in color. One is super light, another super dark. The other two are in the middle and heavy patterned. Definitely keep that one though.

Wow, Is that fire cinny or something? Its really light colored.

I don't know??? That's what I'm asking. No one replied to my first post. The mother is light in color and greenish. This is her first clutch and that cinny is the first out of the egg and that's what popped out. I'm hoping maybe fire cinny or vanilla cinny. I'm not going to call it anything personally. Not until I can truely prove something.

Im really no expert, but im thinkin vanilla cinny.. But like I said, im not expert. But very nice looking!

in the breeding. If you didn't, then I would say no. We can't tell if the mother is a fire unless you show a pic of her. Here is a pic of what a fire looks like.

I didn't buy this snake as a "fire" but I bought her because she looked different. This is the only pic I have of her. It doesn't show her in person color. I'll take another pic tomorrow. She has a green tint to her.

I'm having trouble uploading with photobucket so if the pic didnt come out I'll try again tomorrow.

This should work.

I'll take a side shot with a better camera tomorrow. This pick was a camera phone.

Sorry.

I can see both of them fine.

Anyway - you really won't be able to tell if mom is "something" unless you breed it or a sibling back to mom - it could be something, something that will go away with the first shed, a fluke, or maybe mom just throws a "lighter" colored animal but not necessarily morph material.

Good luck!

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(CJBianco explaining the origins of the BP market.)
"In the beginning Bob created the Ball Python market. And the market was without morph, and wild traits were upon the industry. And Bob said, Let there be morph, and there was morph. And Bob saw the morph, that it was good; and Bob divided the morph from the wild trait. And Bob called the morph Albino, and the wild trait Normal. And the Albino and the Heterozygous Albino were the first investment.
-- Christopher 1:1-1:5"

thats what Im figuring. I know I'd have to sex it first and breed back to see what happens. I was just wondering if anyone else hatched one out from a proven line that resembles the light color. Thanks for looking.

I'm just not very computer suave. My apologies to photobucket.

hey to all! photo bucket is so easy to use it is unreal! just download pics to your computer then use the browse on photo bucket, if you click on your picture on the bucket in the botton right it shows you which link to hit, as to email or forums, hit the link it turns blue then on the forums where you want to put it right click then hit paste! its that easy! i`m 38 and hate computers some times but pictures on photo bucket are the easiest!!.....hope this helps!! if any one needs more help just email me and i`ll be glad to help!!!!....later boadave
view to a kill!!

I hate Photobucket..it is akward and the firwall at my work blocks all the photos. I have to wait till I go home to see everything...unbelievable!

she might be a fire. I tend to lean towards not a fire because the adults I have seen are much brighter than that. The fire will get lighter with each shed. That being said, she does have the head marker and tail stripe with some blushing. Did you get any light colored baby males that look like her, and if so I would keep one and breed it back. If you get little white snakes with black eyes and red pupils, then you will know it is a fire. Apicture of the babies side by side (the normal appearing ones) would help also.

Here's a belly pic and the first 3 hatchlings. There are still 4 pipping. 3 normals and 1 more cinny.

any of them if you don't need the money. I would wait until I prove the genetics and go from there.

This Cinn was purchased as a nice looking Cinn, and a possible cross, from a Fire like female. I did not produce it, has nothing to do with my projects. He is very light, and the different colors are easy to see, and tell apart. Some Cinns have their colors just blend together. I should breed him this year, and will see what hatches. Sorry to those that have seen this pic, or these pics a few times, they are the only pics I have of him loaded on KS.

Dave

Thanks for the pics. I was just thrown off by the somewhat partial stripe and the silverish color. The other cinny sibling should come out of the egg tonight. But the second one doesn't look like the first one from inside the egg. So I'm not sure if that's a good sign (one is a visual double co-dom and the other is a plain cinny) or a bad sign. The normal siblings kinda have a little contrast too. I just have never been able to tell the difference in a normal and a fire in pictures. I've never seen a fire in person. I'll probably just keep them all. The first cinny is a female, so that kinda stinks.