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These look like a hybino to me. To bad they were in the blue when i took these pics. As you can see the price reflect their look.

A few other odds and ends from the Bells:

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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

I don't know why but I haven't warmed up to that "cross" yet..Maybe after I see a hundred or so
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

crimsonking.piczo.com/

Most of the goiniXfloridana I've seen do nothing for me, though a few resemble "Dream kings". I do like the easternXfloridana, especially the natural occurring ones.

I don’t know why you haven’t warmed up to that cross either! You’ve got one of the nicest female patternless Goini I have ever seen, and also one of, no, the nicest Ghost Brooks I’ve ever seen. I’m stickin’ my magic Crimson King voodoo doll in the oven and chanting!!!
Patternless Ghost patternless Ghost patternless Ghost Patternless Ghost patternless Ghost patternless Ghost Patternless Ghost patternless Ghost patternless Ghost Patternless Ghost patternless Ghost patternless Ghost

...they would make a neat pair I suppose....
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

crimsonking.piczo.com/

It’s working!!!!
Muaahh ha ha (evil mad scientist laugh!)

So why do I all of a sudden feel less buddah and more boudin???
haha aiyee!
Voodoo="the snake under whose auspices gather all who share the faith". coincidence??
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

crimsonking.piczo.com/

Coincidence? I think not!
Hey it is always a pleasure to visit your website and check out your pictures. I have read so many references to the Florida Scrub Jay (anytime you read about Indigo habitat) and I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen a picture of one, wouldn’t know one if I saw it. I liked seeing those pics on your site also.

I swear there were two jays here just a minute ago!!!!

and to keep it close to "on topic"

:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

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Thats a great pic...lol.
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Species kept:

Nuevo Leon Kings
Kunasir Island Rats
San Luis Potosi Kings
Axanthic Desert Kings
White Oak Gray Rats
Corns

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Western Green Rats
Pale Milks

Oh man that is a great pic.

Thats not you is it? You must have found that online.

Anyway that is a great pic.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

yup that's me and here's the pic I got when I blindly turned the camera toward my hat and the jay...

:Mark

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Surrender Dorothy!

crimsonking.piczo.com/

Mark, that was a cool shot! I wanna go herpin' with this dude!
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Todd Hughes

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"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings
1.0 Mali Uromastyx

Rainer,......

Yeah!,...I remember those cool ones on Mark's table as well!

Very nice, with Very high prices to match!!LOL

I emailed you back the other day, if you want to send me those pics.

Thanks buddy! ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

They look kinda of like Peanut Butters. Did you get a history?

The Bells don't have and never had PB's. I don't think they even know what they are.

I think they are hybinos and they just did not know their animals had hypo in them. I mean the hypo gene has been around for a while. There is a good chance the snakes they produced from the goini x brooks second gen had the hypo gene floating around in them. So they don't know what a hybino looks like and named them "super" because the lack of reference.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

...they didn't know the lavender/albino was present. I don't think they would have called them hypo anything if it was a lavender brooksi X goini project. I would guess that they popped out of the hypo brooksXgoini project, which is odd, as lavender isn't that common of a trait...

There was a lot of crossing the lavender into the hypo a ways back but nobody produced any hybinos. People didn't eevn think trhey would be able to tell a lav from a hybino. The same went for the honduran hybinos. A long time people didn't think they could tell a visual difference until they popped up.

So it is possible that they used a hypo in the original breeding that was het for lavender to breed into the goini. Also these hybino (supers) came from the same clucth as the other high red hypos you see in the pic. So it all makes sense.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

some of the hypo goini/brooks that people bought might be het for hybino.

Here is a pic of some of the siblings from the same clucth:

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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

you can tell the difference from a Tangerine Albino or Hybino Honduran. I thought the only way to know was to breed a pair of Hypos het Albino? Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

Hey there, hope this comes across correctly. What would you guys do if you were promised LAST YEAR,LAST MONTH AND LAST WEEK to be "first on the list" only to see pictures of snakes at the show on the internet....The unnamed vendor claims to have 30 CLUTCHES of these, yet price them and sell them as if they were all from the same clutch....Jeff

>>Hey there, hope this comes across correctly. What would you guys do if you were promised LAST YEAR,LAST MONTH AND LAST WEEK to be "first on the list" only to see pictures of snakes at the show on the internet....The unnamed vendor claims to have 30 CLUTCHES of these, yet price them and sell them as if they were all from the same clutch....Jeff

Ask this “vendor” why you are seeing pictures of said snakes promised to you on the internet being sold from an “advertised” one clutch when you were told they have 30 clutches. If you don’t ask you will never know, call them on it and see what they say. Maybe an honest mistake, maybe a lie, maybe something else, I would personally ask.
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."

I beleive the Bells have some people helping them year round and sell their babies off their table at the expo. I know for a fact that some came snakes on their table came from individuals working for them. Mabe they had some and the Bells had some. If thats the case that explains why they did not contact you.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

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>>"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"
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Mark

...get that into the dotted prairie...man! It'd look like a leopard rat...
or a striped one?? cool just to imagine....
There are a few hypo VA mole kings that are quite nice as well.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

crimsonking.piczo.com/

Do you know who has the hypo moles now?

Ted Thompson has a VA line...
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.kingpinreptiles.com
^ Updated 8/27

yes.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

crimsonking.piczo.com/

Really? I don't know anything about hypo Prairie kings for $700., So I wouldn't know a good one if it smacked me in the face. I just threw that pic in because it was a $700.prarie king.

Is that a good price? How many people have them? Are their any other hypo Praries around?
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

I posted on that hypo prairie earlier,......yeah, it looks fabulous!,.....but that's alot of "coins" for a snake that many don't bother with, but the snake itself was a BEAUTY, no doubt!.

The female in my opinion was the nicer of the two, but for a calligaster of any type to raise my eye-brows, it takes some doin'!

Thanks again for the nice pair of brooksi, I emailed you back thanking you for the info you gave me, I'm hoping my email didn't get lost in the shuffle.

best regards, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Your welcome Doug,

I appreciate the business. Hope you enjoy those snake and keep posting!
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

you said you could send a few pics of the adults?....that would really be great if you could.

thanks! ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"