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sickly female

infireal Sep 02, 2007 07:44 PM

so i have a problem... well, more like a series of problems. i'll start off with the fact that i was misinformed by just about every person i talked to about care and housing. we got a very thin female (ophelia) and a much larger and healthier female (hibiscus).

well, for a while things seemed good. they were in a 20 long with repti-sand, a moist hide and a few dry hides. they would eat straight from the feed bowl and drink from the water dish provided. ophelia gained more weight, though her tail never really picked up too much more fat. she had a hearty appetite, eating almost a dozen waxworms the second night we had her, hunting crix, etc. bullying was never a problem, if anything , ophelia was more dominant, controlling the better basking spot and *occasionally* patrolling the food bowl. everybody told me the temp was too high for them (usually around 95, sometimes peaking 100 Farenheit), but they seemed to love it. they were very active lizards and they liked to bask in the hottest part of the tank during the late afternoon (i figured if they didn't like it they would be in the cooler spot).

then i had to transport the tank to my gf's house. the temp became closer to the recommended range. they seemed all right at first, they were very much themselves for a few weeks. then they both started losing weight. they became sluggish. i'm sot sure if this is the point where they stop showing interest in live food or if this is due to impaction/parasites. i noticed sand around the vent of hibiscus. i'm not sure if this was from crawling around after running through her water bowl or from trying to pass an impaction.

ophelia became the larger of the two. we began giving them the nice luke warm soaks for about 10 mins, twice a day (in case it was impaction or dehydration). while in the soaks, they became more alert, seemed happier, more lively. ophelia still maintains somewhat of an appetite, eating from tongs, but hibiscus didn't. she died last night, in what seemed to be a position of trying to pass something (with her rear squatted lower and her front more lifted up). she didn't pass anything upon death (which as far as i know is the norm for animals when they die), which makes me believe it was impaction.

today i totally cleaned my cage of all the sand and put all slate
down in the bottom of the tank since they live in the rocky outcroppings in the desert. i'm still concerned about ophelia's health and i do understand it might be a parasitic infestation instead of impaction, but considering the scarcity of stool around the tank and the behaviors i have stated prior, i am assuming it is impaction.i am hoping that people can give me better advice than "bring it to the vet." (no offense, i understand a vet is the best solution, but there are no recommended herp vets in my area). is there anything else i can do to help my poor yzzard recover? i have read things about feeding them a blend of pedialyte and water to help relieve impaction, but i am unsure.

any advice that you can give me would be greatly appreciated, whether it specifically handles this problem or is just something i should look out for. seems i got into this with bad advice and now i'm trying to keep my poor pets from being the victims of it. thank you very much.

Replies (4)

geckogrl6 Sep 02, 2007 09:42 PM

I understand this is not what you want to hear, but even a regular dog/cat vet should be able to do a simple fecal float. It requires a fresh stool sample, but should only set you back about $30. Doing the test will help you determine if your problem is due to parasites or something more serious, like impaction.
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mootish Sep 02, 2007 09:59 PM

Ok, I under stand you were mis informed .
so im going to explain a few thing's

first are they both sick or is it one?
i would recommend separateing them both right away
and yes this should have been done the first day you got your geckos ..
expecially if one is bigger in size then thee other...
the more aggressive one will bully the other one without you knowing it also causes stress for the younger one.

your temps are way to hi ! ...
they need to be 88- 90F if you cant get the temps right i would suggest to get a reostat at a pet shop it controls the heat in the tank about 39 dollars but its a good thing to have if your having heat trouble ,

i read you have your humid hide right ? just a tub a ware disk with a hole in it and i use paper towels in mine and mist every day ?
and i saw you had your dry hides .. you should have two or three.

next important thing is food
waxworms are bad for leos they get addicted and there not healthy for them and make them fat to fast
i would stick with mealie worms or crickets as a staple and a wax worm for a treat
what i did not see was calcuim ?
you need to have a small like cap from a milk jug in the tank next to there water dish
needs to be pure calcuim in it at all times
also you need to give them calcuim covered mealie worms / crickers when you feed

as for impaction .. im glad you took them out of the sand and onto slate
i would never have my geckos on sand.. i use paper towels
i really cant tell you anything further
best bet would be vet becuase they would be able to tell if there impacted or have parasites ..
i would send in a stool of both of them to the vet to make sure they are healthy
if there losing weight thats never a good thing for a gecko

really i hope for the best and i hope you learned something
maybe you can get them babys to be more healthy this time
( im not saying its your fault but ) i would of read up ( try and read as much info as possible

any question's feel free to ask

Christina

jamster Sep 02, 2007 10:48 PM

Mootish...one of the leo's died....

as for the other, one thing to try and figure out whats up rather than takign it to the vets is try to catch the freshest stool you can and "rake" through it. all i have done i kind of smush it onto a surface. use a spoon or a knife to smush it, and if you feel grit, then its probably impaction. but, it might be best to do this 2-3 times just to make sure....

you could always get the number of a vet, ring them and just ask what can be used to clear impactions, it'll save having to go in and travel, and still get (hopefully) the same result as to what would happen from going to the vets.

you might want to keep your leo away from the waxworms, only 1 a week incase she does get addicted which is quite hard to pull them off of.

good to hear you've got all the temps and everythign sorted, just hope your lil leo pulls through

mootish Sep 03, 2007 12:43 PM

well for some reason i missed that i was just explaining alot..to her

im glad you gave her usful advice but if her friendly gecko has impaction or parasites the vet is the only option
and there is a site she can go on and look up the closest herp vet to her
im sure theres someone closer then you think , //

good luck to your one gecko
and im sorry about the other one

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