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They are all eating!!!

Rick Millspaugh Sep 02, 2007 11:37 PM

For the first time ever...all of the hatchling Thayeri (L. leonis?) are eating. It's a miricle. Of course there are only 14 of them this year (I hate Hatchrite). Years past I would get 14 in one clutch, but I'm okay with it.

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Rick
Formerly “Never Enough Reptiles” but, I messed up and neglected to register the domain name or file as a business under that name. Since we are just small Hobbyists, I really didn’t think of protecting the name we have used for the last four years. Someone else is now Never Enough Reptiles LLC. And has a web site under that name. We did not move to Louisiana and we are no longer posting under that name.

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waspinator421 Sep 03, 2007 12:22 AM

Congrats Rick!! I just love that orange one with the bull head pattern. I can't remember... is it male or female? For sale at all?
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Aubrey Ross

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Rick Millspaugh Sep 03, 2007 12:46 PM

I couldn't resist the deeeeep orange color. The pics do not pick up how red it is. The rest got to go, just no room for all the projects I have going.

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Rick
Formerly “Never Enough Reptiles” but, I messed up and neglected to register the domain name or file as a business under that name. Since we are just small Hobbyists, I really didn’t think of protecting the name we have used for the last four years. Someone else is now Never Enough Reptiles LLC. And has a web site under that name. We did not move to Louisiana and we are no longer posting under that name.

MichelleRogers Sep 03, 2007 02:27 PM

Both of these are awesome! I love the yellow but then again that orange is out of this world. Great photo's too.
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Michelle
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.

antr1 Sep 03, 2007 11:18 AM

Did you lose eggs with hatch rite? The few people I spoke to liked it and did well.

Just curious

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"The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think. Oh by the way, which ones pink?"

Rick Millspaugh Sep 03, 2007 12:42 PM

My mistake was using hatchrite just like vermiculite, there is a difference. In the past, using vermiculite, I made my moistened vermiculite mix put a layer down in the container, put the eggs on top then covered the eggs about half way with more vermiculite – pretty standard. As most of you know, with snake eggs, there are always some stuck to the top of the pile and I do my best to make sure the moist vermiculite touches all the eggs without smothering the eggs on the bottom of the pile; with dragon eggs, they are all separate so each is buried half way. During the incubation process I monitor the eggs and if I see some slight dimpling I spray water around the inside edge of the egg container to get the humidity level back up without getting the eggs to damp – again, pretty standard stuff. I used the hatchrite the same way and that is were I had problems. I sprayed the inside of the containers when I noticed dimpling, just like I always did but, the dimpling kept getting worst and I lost many eggs (especially bearded dragon eggs) because they dried out too much no matter how much water I sprayed in each day. I finally realized that the little water absorbing crystals in the hatchrite were shrinking and thus pulling the hatchrite material away from the eggs. Once I realized this, I gently pushed the hatchrite back against the eggs and had no further losses. I also kept the hatchrite wetter than I would vermiculite. The hatchrite is far more forgiving of too much moister but I’m old fashion and will only use vermiculite from now on.
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Rick
Formerly “Never Enough Reptiles” but, I messed up and neglected to register the domain name or file as a business under that name. Since we are just small Hobbyists, I really didn’t think of protecting the name we have used for the last four years. Someone else is now Never Enough Reptiles LLC. And has a web site under that name. We did not move to Louisiana and we are no longer posting under that name.

RussBates Sep 03, 2007 06:21 PM

Rick,
You really should try a clutch of eggs hidden under long fiber spaghum moss....I swear by it and it's all I ever use. You don't have to worry about the egg pile being high because you cover the egg pile with the damp moss (not too damp). The other really cool thing about the moss is that the bugs don't seem to like it and will not attack while the eggs are under cover (that's been my experience).

Again great looking snakes and yeah some of those do look like they came from clutches like mine. I love the deep molten orange..really nice.

Russ

RussBates Sep 03, 2007 12:00 PM

can't say that for all 48 of mine but for the most part 80% of them are eating without hesitation. Congrats and that one pictured looks great.
Russ

Rick Millspaugh Sep 03, 2007 12:48 PM

I was checking out your photobucket site, nice bunch of babies. I thought many of ours look like clutch mates.
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Rick
Formerly “Never Enough Reptiles” but, I messed up and neglected to register the domain name or file as a business under that name. Since we are just small Hobbyists, I really didn’t think of protecting the name we have used for the last four years. Someone else is now Never Enough Reptiles LLC. And has a web site under that name. We did not move to Louisiana and we are no longer posting under that name.

MichelleRogers Sep 03, 2007 02:29 PM

48!! Congrat's. I was looking at your photo's and you had some really nice ones to hatch out. I like the yellows.
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Michelle
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.

RussBates Sep 04, 2007 05:07 PM

yeah I had a good year. How about you...did you produce any thayeri?
Russ

MichelleRogers Sep 04, 2007 05:30 PM

strange year for me, only 1 clutch in the incubator and 1 absorbed. The 1 in the incubator is due to hatch any day.
I guess the girls wanted a year off and I think the weather played a big part in it all also.
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Michelle
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.

RussBates Sep 04, 2007 07:44 PM

yeah that happens. I was feeding snakes tonight and realized that my three year old transpecos rat was just now gravid. They tend to go late in the year. My male is too young anyways but maybe next year.

MichelleRogers Sep 03, 2007 02:28 PM

lucky you mine are still incubating it has been a weird year.
beautiful thayeri btw.
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Michelle
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.

JonelLopez Sep 04, 2007 12:46 PM

Hi Rick

I'm having a pretty good year in terms of feeding response too. I got about ~84% (31 out of 37) of the babies eating at first offering which is not bad for these guys. Fertility rate was very good also not to mention some cool looking keepers. I'm really sorry to hear that your clutches had issues with the incubation medium. Btw, what kind of incubator did you use? Maybe that's another factor to consider, as well as the male's fertility this year.
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Jonel M. Lopez

www.spsnakes.com

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