Red cornduran
A little peach flavor cornduran:
Het Hypo goini. *hypo brooksi X goini* (will produce hypo)
Lavender goini (Goini X lav brooksi)
anery Cornduran:
cornduran
Hypo brooksi x goini
Welcome to kingsnake.com's message board system. Here you may share and discuss information with others about your favorite reptile and amphibian related topics such as care and feeding, caging requirements, permits and licenses, and more. Launched in 1997, the kingsnake.com message board system is one of the oldest and largest systems on the internet.
Red cornduran
A little peach flavor cornduran:
Het Hypo goini. *hypo brooksi X goini* (will produce hypo)
Lavender goini (Goini X lav brooksi)
anery Cornduran:
cornduran
Hypo brooksi x goini
There are some awesome animals there! When I first started reading into this whole hybrid debate, I began by thinking I probably would never want to own a hybrid. I'd rather have, say, a full-blooded Brooksi than a Cornduran. But after seeing those pics, I have to admit that I could be converted. The hypo brooksi x goinis are beautiful! I'd like to see the rest of the anery.
I'd like to ask a simple question. Remember, I'm somewhat breeder challenged, so pardon my ignorance if this seems stupid. Can you give a simple layman's definition of "hypo?"
Thanks,
-----
MichaelB
wauw what a beautyful snake's you got there! 
Hypo is a short term for hypomelanism or hypomelanistiuc. Itmeans lacking dark pigment. So it can describe an light colored animal that lacks dark pigment but still has the red and yellow . Unfortunately the term has been abused as a way to market any light colored animals in a clutch.
A book a lot of herpers go by is written by Dr. Bern Bechtel (the name excapes at the moment) decsribes some of the terms.
For instance a term for a snake that lacks yellow and red pigment is axanthic or anerthristic. [Both can be used interchangably but most herpers use axanthic for a mostly yellow sanke and anerythristic(anery) for a mostly red snake]. What you get is a dark animal that lacks all reds and yellow pigment. The opposite of a hypo.
When you cross a hypo to a axnathic (hpyo X axanthic) you get hets . This means they are carriers of both genes. These would then be called Double Het ("DH"
and will produce a Ghost. But with only 1/16 possibility.
If you crasso a anert or axanthic with a albino (amel) you get snows. Hence the term snow corns.
The book is good reading and a starting point in figuring all these terms out.
Geesh.. can anyone remember the name of that book?
Rainer
Reptile and Amphibian Variants
Brian
Jeez Brian. Where the heck have you been. Did you get my phone calls?
MAN, I am glad you showed up here!!! But is the book reccomendation all you will give us here? Com'n...PLEEEEEEZ. Oh wait!... P R E T T Y P L E E E E Z.. with sugar on top!!!
Enlighten us here bro.
>>Hypo is a short term for hypomelanism or hypomelanistiuc. Itmeans lacking dark pigment. So it can describe an light colored animal that lacks dark pigment but still has the red and yellow . Unfortunately the term has been abused as a way to market any light colored animals in a clutch.
Wouldn't amelanistic be the term for an animal lacking dark pigment? (Dark pigment being melanin, the prefix a- meaning without), and hypomelanistic being the term for having a reduction in dark pigment (hypo- meaning less than normal)
>>For instance a term for a snake that lacks yellow and red pigment is axanthic or anerthristic. [Both can be used interchangably but most herpers use axanthic for a mostly yellow sanke and anerythristic(anery) for a mostly red snake]. What you get is a dark animal that lacks all reds and yellow pigment. The opposite of a hypo.
>>
Not always, anery corns for example, while not having red or orange pigment, can sometimes have a great deal of yellow.
-----
-audri
Webpage/Pics
Pinta
While you are correct I did not have the time to write an exhaustive account . That is why I recomended the book. But even Dr. Bechtel book has inconsistencies.
What is the differnece betwwen the charcoal and anery (anery A &B) and what is the melanistic corn? Does it have yellow?
As far as I know, type A anery gets yellow as the animal ages, whereas type B anery stays black-and-white.
I've never been able to figure out if there's a difference between the words 'melanistic' and 'hypermelanistic'.
How much of their red do Goini crosses lose as they grow up? Do they lose all of it like pure Goini's?
I don't know how much red the goini crooses lose as they mature.
They have a higher probability compared to normals as crosses tend to hold colors better.
The corndurans I have look like corns but I have been told by corn experts that they will have a higher degree of color seperation (colors will not tend to bleed as much)and retention.
The Jurassic milks are also going to be more popular in the future when the majority of herpers finally realize that the albino reds, oranges and neon reds and oranges actually stay bright into adulthood. Something that no normal pure amel has done.If you have never seen an adult high red Jurassic then you will be surprised how nice they retain colours. Their are not to many adults around so its wise to get on the band wagon(so to speak) before everyone else does..
I have also seen these color retentions in adults this year in some mex mex/tharyi crosses. Absolutely stunning animals. I passed one up that I will kick myself for at the Daytona expo. Its was $1200 and sold before the show opened on set up day. Oh well! I also think that Osborne has some beautiuful amel animals.
BTW, not all pure goini lose their red. The Late Lloyd Lemke had a strain that holds the red.
I've seen the 'blaze phases'.. maybe someone should do hypo crosses with those.
I beleive the Blaze phase is a hyperthristic.
Wow.... I probably just had them mixed up this whole time...
:thinks about breeding Goini's again...
I like hybrids, but the corndurans weren't as nice as the pueblan x corn crosses I like, but that ANERY wow. How can I purchase one???
-----
~Katt
Help, tips & resources quick links
Manage your user and advertising accounts
Advertising and services purchase quick links