Thanks B.C. I had read the barkers article on there page, the only thing im finding is different from keeper to keeper is the humidity preference. The tubs there in stay high 70's to low 80's and thats with holes on all sides, am I cool with that? im keeping temps low to mid eighties. There tub is a 32qt isis split with a divider for reptile basics so they each have half a tub. I guess the only other thing is cage size in the future, any suggestions? I figure that between the half tub there in now to the 32qt I should be ok for maybe a year? I guess in the care sheets of vpi the 40sq in to 6-8 square feet gets confusing. thanks again B.C. Also Great web site.