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Help identifying a ratsnake

snottlebocket Sep 09, 2007 05:21 AM

I recently bought a hatchling 'missing red' hatchling ratsnake. The seller advertised them as 'ratsnakes' with no further specification as to what kind.

I actually assumed they were red ratsnakes (elaphe guttata guttata), the patterns on the snake are an exact match for my regular red ratsnake, except ofcourse in lovely shades of grey and black.

Funny thing is, I saw this hatchlings parents yesterday and they weren't red. The parents were patterned exactly like a red ratsnake but both of them were a blonde sandy color with darker brownish saddles.

I know enough to care properly for my ratsnakes but I've never really looked into the work that's being done with breeding new colorations and such. Anyway I'm wondering if I inadvertently bought something other than elaphe guttata guttata or if the parents are simply 'red ratsnakes'with a very interesting coloration. (I'm aware there's quite a few different species of ratsnakes but I can't think of any that are a blonde sandy yellow with the exact same patterns as a red ratsnake)

On a sidenote I was wondering about the possibility of keeping this snake in a shared tank with another ratsnake. I've already quarantined it for three weeks and it still looks healthy, shiny and it's eating well.

I was hoping to eventually house it together with a red ratsnake in a display tank to show of the contrast between their colorations. I know ratsnakes can peacefully coexist in a big enough tank, I was wondering if this was also true for snakes that haven't grown up together. (I'd still feed them seperately)

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draybar Sep 09, 2007 10:01 AM

>>I recently bought a hatchling 'missing red' hatchling ratsnake. The seller advertised them as 'ratsnakes' with no further specification as to what kind.
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>>I actually assumed they were red ratsnakes (elaphe guttata guttata), the patterns on the snake are an exact match for my regular red ratsnake, except ofcourse in lovely shades of grey and black.
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>>Funny thing is, I saw this hatchlings parents yesterday and they weren't red. The parents were patterned exactly like a red ratsnake but both of them were a blonde sandy color with darker brownish saddles.
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>>I know enough to care properly for my ratsnakes but I've never really looked into the work that's being done with breeding new colorations and such. Anyway I'm wondering if I inadvertently bought something other than elaphe guttata guttata or if the parents are simply 'red ratsnakes'with a very interesting coloration. (I'm aware there's quite a few different species of ratsnakes but I can't think of any that are a blonde sandy yellow with the exact same patterns as a red ratsnake)
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>>On a sidenote I was wondering about the possibility of keeping this snake in a shared tank with another ratsnake. I've already quarantined it for three weeks and it still looks healthy, shiny and it's eating well.
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>>I was hoping to eventually house it together with a red ratsnake in a display tank to show of the contrast between their colorations. I know ratsnakes can peacefully coexist in a big enough tank, I was wondering if this was also true for snakes that haven't grown up together. (I'd still feed them seperately)

There is such a wide variety in corn snakes and rat snakes it could easily be a young corn snake. Especially when you take into consideration the changes from hatchling to adult.

post pictures and we can help.
Otherwise it is only blind speculation.

If you plan to co-habitate your snakes you need to be aware of the possible drawbacks.
stress
loss of apetitie
unwanted pregnancy
spread of disease. If one gtes sick the other may as well.
If one has a regurge problem you may not know which one until it is too late.
more then one escapes if an avenue of excape presents itself.
although very rare and only a very slight possibility there is a chance of cannibalism. One might smell a prey item on the other and decide it needs another meal.
Things you need to be aware of and need to be able to recognise in your snakes.
I personally recommend against co-habitation and have a long winded post that I usually paste into posts like this but I know people will do whatever they wan't no matter what I say.
I also know many people co-habitate successfully, I did for years, I just feel the possible drawbacks need to be expressed.

post pics and we will probably be able to identify your new snake without much difficulty.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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