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tangerine albinos

pweaver Sep 10, 2007 05:57 PM

These guys just hatched out yesterday...

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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

Replies (13)

shannon brown Sep 10, 2007 05:58 PM

Those are screamers Paul.
Shannon

pweaver Sep 10, 2007 06:03 PM

Thanks Shannon. There was something really odd with this clutch. This was the first year breeding for the mother of these. I only bred her with a tangerine albino male. Of the 5 eggs, 4 were these really nice albinos, and one was a normal tangerine (not albino). I know that the mother was never with another male, and also that the eggs didn't get mixed up as they were clumped together. Ever heard of something like that happening?
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

shannon brown Sep 10, 2007 06:48 PM

WOW, thats really weird. I have had that happen for about 12 years now on and off with my pure albino appleagate gophers. I hatched about 40 babies before I saw a normal but now after 0ver 100 babies I have sen about 10-12 normals? doesn't make since.

Shannon

vjl4 Sep 10, 2007 07:23 PM

Thats pretty crazy. Have you even held back the "normals" and bred them to see if they are hets? Its really unlikley (I mean really, really) but it could be a reverse mutation making a defunk amel gene a working one.

Best,
Vinny
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“There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that whilst this planet has gone on cycling according to the fixed laws of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.” -C. Darwin, 1859

Natural Selection Reptiles

shannon brown Sep 11, 2007 11:42 AM

Nope, I havn't but I gave a pair to Applegate about three years ago and he tells me that they will go next season.

Shannon

vjl4 Sep 11, 2007 05:58 PM

Cool. I cant wait to hear if they throw some albinos. If so, then they are hets and if they are hets then its a reverse mutation and that is freaking sweet!

Vinny
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“There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that whilst this planet has gone on cycling according to the fixed laws of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.” -C. Darwin, 1859

Natural Selection Reptiles

Dniles Sep 10, 2007 07:43 PM

Those are really nice Paul! Are the parents from different sources/albino bloodlines? I don't have a good idea of why one popped out normal looking but sometimes it seems there are different albino bloodlines out there that aren't "compatible" like with the Applegate and Dyer strain of albino San Diego gophers?

Anyway, those are beauties.

Dave
DNS Reptiles

pweaver Sep 10, 2007 08:04 PM

Yes, they are from different bloodlines. The male is from Don Shores. He bought them off of this guy who had an amazing bloodline of tangerine albinos. Shannon might recall the name because I think he was interested in them at the time as well.

The female is from Mark Bailey of MN. I think the female is also het hypo and poss het anery...something like that, so they are poss hets.
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

shannon brown Sep 11, 2007 11:43 AM

oh, so its from Nigels stuff? weird.
L8r

pweaver Sep 11, 2007 11:55 AM

That's what I was thinking when I wrote that. After thinking about it more, I remember that Don picked up my male from Dave Doherty. I think it was part of a group that Don bought and he sold off a couple, including one to me. Sorry for the mixup. I'm getting old
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

RandyWhittington Sep 10, 2007 07:49 PM

Those are some killer bi colors Paul! Congrats. Randy W.

don shores Sep 10, 2007 09:23 PM

Those are really nice animals Paul. Kind of weird on the normal. Anymore with weird animals hatching who can say. Don

jawn Sep 11, 2007 06:00 PM

Paul the one centered in the second picture is extrememly nice! The way the photo turned out it almost looks like the triad bands are darker than the background ones! Love the wide bands too.
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Jon Wedow
Sharp Dressed Snakes

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