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breeding

gazerel Sep 13, 2007 05:48 PM

im planning on breeding corn snakes next summer, so i picked up a few to raise, ( i got a 4 year old blood red male, 6 month old blizzard female, 1 year old sunglow female, and a candy cane male) im planning on getting a ghost female, too, i was wondering what would be a good female morph to breed with the blood red,
and also what do i need to mix to eventaully get lava corns,

Replies (15)

phiber_optikx Sep 13, 2007 07:19 PM

To get Lavas you need a lava
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-David Harrison-
.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1. Striped Anery Corn "Vendetta"
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
.1 Ball Python "Rocky Ballboa" (Didn't name her!)

"Have you ever tried simply turning off the T.V., sitting down with your kids... and hitting them?"

tbrent1 Sep 13, 2007 07:54 PM

I'm not an expert but to breed next season you need an older female . From what i gather most use the 300 grams 3 years old and 3 feet rule

xblackheart Sep 13, 2007 08:01 PM

too funny. I posted the same thing before reading yours. Glad we agree.
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"I try to take one day at a time but sometimes several days attack me at once"

xblackheart Sep 13, 2007 08:00 PM

Well, unless you get an older female than what you have, you should not breed next year. Your females wont be old enought.
The general rules to meet are
300 grams
3 years old
3 feet long
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"I try to take one day at a time but sometimes several days attack me at once"

FunkyRes Sep 14, 2007 02:24 AM

I can't disagree with the general guidelines posted but a lot of people succesfully breed at 2 years. What impact that has on the female - I don't know, and you'll find claims on both sides of the issue.

3 feet and 300 grams sounds like a good rule of thumb though - that very well may mean 3 years for a lot of corns.

As stated - lava is a single gene morph. You need to get corns that preferably express (homo) or at least carry (het) the lava gene.

There's a good book on corn genetics - I don't recall the name of it and I don't own it, I'm hoping to pick up at Sac show in a few weeks. If not there it is online. Someone else can probably give you the name of it - I think it is updated yearly. Anyway - I'd look into getting that book if you want to know what possibilities you have from your corns.
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x.y L. getula californiae (Cal. King)
x.y L. getula nigrita (MBK)
x.y L. getula floridana (Brooksi)
x.y Pantherophis guttatus guttatus (Corn)
0.1 Pituophis catenifer catenifer (Pacific gopher)
0.1 Heterodon nasicus (W Hognose)
x.y.z Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata - (Cal. Alligator Lizard)

xblackheart Sep 14, 2007 04:04 PM

the best book on corn snake genetics is Th Corn Snake Morph Guide. By charles Pritzel (I believe thats the spelling - without looking it up)
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"I try to take one day at a time but sometimes several days attack me at once"

FunkyRes Sep 14, 2007 04:54 PM

n/p
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x.y L. getula californiae (Cal. King)
x.y L. getula nigrita (MBK)
x.y L. getula floridana (Brooksi)
x.y Pantherophis guttatus guttatus (Corn)
0.1 Pituophis catenifer catenifer (Pacific gopher)
0.1 Heterodon nasicus (W Hognose)
x.y.z Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata - (Cal. Alligator Lizard)

gazerel Sep 15, 2007 11:34 AM

i know about the females having to be about 300 grams which wont be a problem since i powerfeed all my snakes, (i work at a reptile store so i get all the fattest rats) , i just special orderd that corn snake genetic book so hopefully ill be able to get some good babies when the females are ready.

one more question, jsut wondering what would some of u breed to a male bloodred, cuz im looking for another female that a proven breeder, but i cant decide what morph to get

FunkyRes Sep 15, 2007 12:20 PM

power feeding is very risky and known to be detrimental to the animal.
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x.y L. getula californiae (Cal. King)
x.y L. getula nigrita (MBK)
x.y L. getula floridana (Brooksi)
x.y Pantherophis guttatus guttatus (Corn)
0.1 Pituophis catenifer catenifer (Pacific gopher)
0.1 Heterodon nasicus (W Hognose)
x.y.z Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata - (Cal. Alligator Lizard)

draybar Sep 16, 2007 08:13 AM

i know about the females having to be about 300 grams which wont be a problem since i powerfeed all my snakes, (i work at a reptile store so i get all the fattest rats) ,

You say this as if you are proud of it?
This just goes to show why we are so hesitant to recommend getting advise from most pet stores
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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cochran Sep 16, 2007 02:40 PM

You're good Jimmy!I was gonna say the same thing!! Jeff

draybar Sep 16, 2007 09:04 PM

>>You're good Jimmy!I was gonna say the same thing!! Jeff

At least you and FunkyRes saw it like I did.

It's just not something I would be proud of.

Anytime you over feed an animal just to obtain rapid growth it can't be good for the animal. Especially when using rats.
I may be way off base here but from everything I have read rats are more fatty then mice which would be seemingly even worse.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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goregrind Sep 14, 2007 05:09 AM

pretty much anything to breed to a bloodred can make cool babies
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven

tspuckler Sep 14, 2007 06:56 AM

Breeding just about any corn snake that isn't a bloodred to a bloodred will give you a bunch of normal looking babies, unless the bloodred is het for a trait that the snake you're breeding it to carries.

Tim
Third Eye
Third Eye

goregrind Sep 14, 2007 05:05 PM

i meant any bloodred cross turns out coo once you breed the offspring back, i didnt mean first generation.

i figured people would know what i meant
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven

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