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Photos - Indian Rat Snakes - Ptyas

jmonahan Sep 19, 2007 01:21 AM

I was at a small zoo in southern India a couple weeks ago. They had a bunch of rat snakes that had been caught locally and brought to the zoo. I was surprised to see the variable ventral colors - from beige to pink to orange to yellow.

The longest were maybe 8 ft

Joe

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jmonahan Sep 19, 2007 01:22 AM

Sorry

jmonahan Sep 19, 2007 01:23 AM

limit of 3 per page I see

jmonahan Sep 19, 2007 01:24 AM

3

jmonahan Sep 19, 2007 01:26 AM

This young snake was maybe 3 foot. It had just eaten 4-5 chicks they put in the enclosure
joe

Sighthunter Sep 19, 2007 02:39 PM

Those pics are awsome! They look alot like cribos!
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jmonahan Sep 21, 2007 09:19 PM

They were impressive snakes. Too bad the nice ones were too high up in the trees to get good pics. A local herper told me he had seen them around 11 feet - but not measured at 11 feet (a big difference

Indian herpetology is really in its infancy. New species are being discovered often. I spent very little time herping but found two species (a frog and a lizard) more than a hundred miles from their known range. And the guy mentioned above found two species that don't key out to any known species - and this was on his own property!

joe

Sighthunter Sep 22, 2007 07:00 AM

I just got some Ptyas in, so I am excited to work with them. I will get some pics as soon as they settle in. These are hatchlings so I have a big hill to climb figuring these guys out.
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BillyBoy Sep 22, 2007 04:01 PM

We need pics man!

Billy

Sighthunter Sep 22, 2007 04:22 PM

Pics will be coming soon. They are neonates and need to settle down.
Ptyas

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BillyBoy Sep 23, 2007 06:36 AM

Yep, had my eye on some of those as well. Fairly recently re-classified as Zaocys, correct? Very cool little buggers either way. Would love to hear about their progress.

Billy

jmonahan Sep 22, 2007 07:12 PM

Wow, I didn't know they were even available.

I read that "rat" snake is a bit of a misnomer as they seem to prefer fish, frogs, lizards, birds. The young at the zoo made quick work of the chicks they gave it (live).

The keeper said they bite, but they didn't turn on him when he jumped in and grabbed their tail. (I think he felt sorry for me trying to take pictures of them up in the trees for an hour or more, so rustled one out of its hiding place for me to see on the ground)

joe

Sighthunter Sep 23, 2007 06:42 AM

I love the open air environment. Looks like they had some nice sized ones. Do you know the subspecies they are?.......Bill
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jmonahan Sep 23, 2007 06:53 AM

I don't know the subspecies for sure, but can pretty much gaurantee you they came from southern India, and probably within 50 miles or so of Bangalore.

The impression I got was that they were animals people found or brought in, or they paid a small amount to collect locally. Other than a couple nice king cobras, the only other snakes they had were indian cobras and russel's vipers - other common local snakes.

Good luck with yours! Keep us posted.

Joe

Sighthunter Sep 23, 2007 10:42 AM

Sounds like mucosa
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dinodon Sep 25, 2007 09:43 AM

Here is a Ptyas from Taiwan.

dinodon Sep 25, 2007 10:11 AM

Here is an adult mucosus, this one was at least 9 foot, I have seen bigger ones, but it's hard to say how big, as they were too fast and I couldn't get hold of them to take a pic.The color range, I've seen have been from, very light almost white, red, black, brown and greenish yellown.

Sighthunter Sep 25, 2007 03:17 PM

Keep posting this is good stuff! They definatly have a racer look! I will get some pics of mine. What do yours eat?
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Sighthunter Sep 25, 2007 03:14 PM

Looks just like my coachwhip hatchlings.
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