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Old pic of Broward County king

Upscale Sep 22, 2007 12:52 AM

This is a picture of me holding a locality Broward County (south Florida) Florida King that has no hint of Brooks. Caught right off st rd 84 back in 1977, the area does not exist for field herping now. Just wanted to show how dark they could be this far south of the “cane fields”. Unfortunately, this is the only picture I found of me with a getula from back then when I still lived at home. I found it in a scrap book I was looking through at my Dad’s house!

This is the whole picture I scanned. Wow thirty dang years ago...

Replies (73)

Tony D Sep 22, 2007 05:46 AM

Interesting to get a perspective on peoples age. I generally assume most here are fairly young (relative to my 47) but seems I'm not the only border line geezer here! Where did 30 years go indeed.

Cool snake too. I often think about who a certain captive phenotype starts to be associated with a local and how it isn't always the case.

Steve_Craig Sep 22, 2007 07:09 AM

Time sure does fly. I'm not far behind you guys at 43. Looking forward to 44 because I don't like the other option, LOL
Steve

>>Interesting to get a perspective on peoples age. I generally assume most here are fairly young (relative to my 47) but seems I'm not the only border line geezer here! Where did 30 years go indeed.
Cool snake too. I often think about who a certain captive phenotype starts to be associated with a local and how it isn't always the case.
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antelope Sep 22, 2007 09:48 AM

Coming up on the big 4-5 myself and ditto Steve's comment!
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Todd Hughes

cochran Sep 22, 2007 10:35 PM

My favorite saying for old farts is,The older I get the better I was! Jeff

Tony D Sep 23, 2007 01:09 PM

Dude I had no idea you were entering geezerdom. You look much younger. Eiterh the mid-fourties are cruel years or you been livin good!

chris jones Sep 22, 2007 07:44 AM

I just turned 17.

Chris

antelope Sep 22, 2007 09:49 AM

It's ok Chris, you will catch up and then you can hang with the over the hill gang, lol!
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Todd Hughes

bizkit421 Sep 22, 2007 09:52 AM

lol... that wasn't a very nice way to brag about bein a young'n...
Although I don't have much room to talk, I'll be 25 in November...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings
1.0 Mali Uromastyx

antelope Sep 22, 2007 09:57 AM

As I zoom towards midlife, I realize that I will take experience over youth any day, but you guys bring fresh new ideas with you, and that keeps us old farts young at heart!
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Todd Hughes

Upscale Sep 22, 2007 10:16 AM

Remember that old saying,”I’ve forgotten more than you know”- it’s true you young whipper snappers! Sometimes we need something to jog the old memory, but we do collect a lot of occasionally useful info over the years. Pay attention Grasshopper (oh wait, you’re too young to know what that means!)
I guess we can’t have a “Vintage” forum here, this one would be a lot less used!

bizkit421 Sep 22, 2007 10:57 AM

come on now, I'm not that young... I've seen Karate Kid...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
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Kerby... Sep 22, 2007 11:00 AM

because it wasn't from Karate Kid...it was from Kung-Fu (Carradine).

Kerby...
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bizkit421 Sep 22, 2007 11:01 AM

I've never seen that one, but I've never been much of one for Kung Fu movies either...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings
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Kerby... Sep 22, 2007 11:30 AM

in the 1970's...well before Karate Kid.

Kerby...
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bizkit421 Sep 22, 2007 11:32 AM

ahh... that explains it... yeah, just a little before my time...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
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Bluerosy Sep 22, 2007 01:29 PM

You never heard of David Carradine?

LOL!
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

bizkit421 Sep 22, 2007 01:31 PM

I'll get right on askin my mom about him...
lol...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings
1.0 Mali Uromastyx

Bluerosy Sep 22, 2007 01:49 PM

He was right around the time of Lee Majors (6 million Dollar Man), Chuck Connors (Rifleman) and the Bannana Splits Club (sat morning kids show).

Oh!.. anyone remember that 60's show where Goldy Hawn got her start? She was a dancer and it was a crazy comedy variety show with two show hosts. Can't remember the name right now....
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

Beaker30 Sep 22, 2007 01:54 PM

Laugh In.
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snakelaw Sep 22, 2007 01:58 PM

Hosts Rowan and Martin. "Here come the judge"...Flip Wilson.

Bluerosy Sep 22, 2007 02:03 PM

You guys are right.."LAUGH IN"

wow the memory is the first to go. LOL!
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

snakelaw Sep 22, 2007 02:06 PM

Really it's the long term memory that remains. Now where did I leave my beer?

Falls Church High School 1976

Upscale Sep 22, 2007 02:53 PM

Ha Ha lookie what I started. I just got back home to find this long thread. I never imagined. Yes the Grasshopper thing was from Kung Fu where the young apprentice would not be ready until he could snatch the marble out of the blind masters outstretched hand. It's been parodied a million times since. Speaking of saturday morning shows, I remember the Hudson Brothers Razzle Dazzle Hour, Johnny Quest, and a local show in south Florida, I think was called Arthur and Company or something like that and they had a short segment with a snake from the Miami Serpentarium all the time. Only local folks would know about it. And Skipper Chuck, Toby the Robot, anybody got any Brooks king stories from back then???

Kerby... Sep 22, 2007 04:00 PM

The all-time best Saturday morning show was - RAT PATROL...PERIOD!

More so in the late 60's.

Kerby...
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Upscale Sep 22, 2007 04:07 PM

LOL I still remember that show. My wife watches "The young and restless" soap- Victor Newman was on that old show! She never heard of it.

DMong Sep 22, 2007 06:00 PM

on the Skipper Chuck Show when I was a punk kid!LOL

Remember his side-kick "Scruffy"?!!.....wow!, what a laugh this thread is!

Don't anybody "bad-mouth" my good buddies H.R.Puffnstuff, Freddy Flute, and especially Witchy Poo!!LOL

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Upscale Sep 23, 2007 12:23 AM

Dude, you have got to look up “Skipper Chuck” on Wikipedia! You’ll die! Now I know you can find everything on the internet. I saw Skipper Chuck live a couple of times at area malls doing the whole road show appearance. I remember once at the old Lauderhill Mall (you remember the big slide?), Scruffy and the whole thing going on. When I was a little kid they had a kickin pet store in that mall with a chimpanzee that belonged to the owner. It use to bite all the kids. I bought a cribo there once. How times have changed, I’ve said before- kids today will never see the stuff we did. Some good and bad in that...

DMong Sep 23, 2007 11:37 AM

That store you mentioned, was called "Doctor's Pet Center"!

I bought a few snakes there many moons ago, Including(get this)a baby Burmese Python, those were considered VERY uncommon back then!!LOL.......isn't that a laugh?, to think a Burm was uncommon!!?LOL..........Like you, I love thinking back to those "good-ol'days"

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

CrimsonKing Sep 23, 2007 09:35 PM

Doug, I'd sell the burms (back then more indian rocks than burms really) or retics to Doctor's here and got way more for them than the killer little boas I had.. $8.-$10. for the boas and $20. for the pythons!
Can you imagine, squirrell monkeys for $15,??!!
Remember??
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

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Upscale Sep 24, 2007 06:52 AM

I was about to add to Doug’s post about buying the baby Burmese that it might have been an Indian back then, but I didn’t think anyone would believe me. I told you that was a kickin’ pet shop! Too bad those aren’t the ones in the everglades.

DMong Sep 24, 2007 11:19 AM

That's too much that you know that place(Doctor's) too!!, wow!'

I certainly believe that there were many Indians in the mix back then........the one I had was 100% Burmese though without a doubt.I knew the differences even when I was very young.

I remember "Dealy's Aquarium" pet store had an 11 ft. "Ceylonese"Python(pimbura) way back around 1973-74!!

Do you remember that store???....I remember the guy that ran the store was named Barry!......I can't believe I can still recall his name!.......my friends and I would go in there and drool over snakes that we wanted to get!!LOL

"Upscale" remembers that place too, and we both have fond memories of those "good ol'days"!

best regards, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

CrimsonKing Sep 24, 2007 12:41 PM

Doug, the Doktor's pet centers I was referring to were up here in the Tampa Bay area. I assume, maybe incorrectly, that they were part of the same "chain". Some were in malls..HA! Malls were just beginning to appear on the scene!
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

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Upscale Sep 24, 2007 01:18 PM

My family moved here in December 1966, the Lauderhill Mall opened earlier that same year. It was the first air conditioned mall in Florida back then, super modern! This mall was considered something of a time machine amongst malls, because the owners never upgraded and it still looked the same long after the local population went from 350,000 when it opened to the 1.8 million of today. My grandma worked at McCrory’s and I spent a lot of time there. The chimp I mentioned at the pet shop, I literally remember it got banned from the mall because it bit somebody, and I remember thinking what’s the big deal, he bit everybody! I am thinking the Doctors pet chain came in after the original? I’m not really sure about that.

DMong Sep 24, 2007 02:25 PM

Yeah!,...we moved to Lauderdale in 1965, and I remember Lauderhill being the "HUGE", modern, air-conditioned "Super-Mall"
of the time!!LOL

Man!,....I went to McCrory's many a time, They had a fountain/restaraunt there too, didn't they?? I remember eating there a bunch!

Then "Lakes Mall" down the street was the "new kid in town", and took so much business from them, they had to fold down.

Could you imagine if "Doctor's, or "Dealy's" had stuff like we have today!!???.....that would have been like selling snakes from a different planet!!LOL

~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

antelope Sep 25, 2007 07:13 AM

We had a Doktor's Pet Center in our mall in Corpus. The owner let me feed the boas and others, I would carry my bull snake in a trumpet case to the mall and feed her there! I bought my melanistic hognose and an eastern garter there as my first snakes, circa 1970, lol!
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Todd Hughes

Upscale Sep 25, 2007 08:41 AM

I will always remember that Lauderhill pet store for the chimp and an ocelot they had there. That thing was about the prettiest living thing I ever saw. I remember they had skunks, coati mundi, mynah birds, which I never see anywhere, and baby alligators, of course. The pet trade was sure different back then.

CrimsonKing Sep 25, 2007 12:51 PM

Ocelots were cool for sure as were the smaller margays. I have a few stories about them as well....
Anyway, I never see mynahs anymore either. I "grew up" with one at a neighbor's house..One of his favorite sayings: "I'm sick of school!" Wonder where he ever got that??
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

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antelope Sep 23, 2007 02:28 PM

Hahahaha,and Sigmund and the Seamonsters, Lidsville, all these new shows are knockoffs of the classics, I hear there is a Bionic Woman remake coming!
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Todd Hughes

ChristopherD Sep 23, 2007 06:24 AM

cause i was on the Skipper Chuck show

ChristopherD Sep 23, 2007 06:21 AM

Its the warm one you find in the morning,Ahhh justified told i didnt drink that many!(wonder if i can put that in the fridge till later?)

antelope Sep 23, 2007 02:25 PM

Veeeeeeeedy eenterstingt, but shtupid!
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Todd Hughes

antelope Sep 23, 2007 02:43 PM

and I love the guy in the raincoat on the tricycle, and Ruth Buzzi as the old maid and Arte Johnson as the Dirty Old Man!! LOL, now THAT was the good ol' days! Dean Martin's Celebrity Roasts were frickin' awesome!
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Todd Hughes

Kerby... Sep 23, 2007 05:29 PM

Foster Brooks, could never tell if he was acting drunk or he was drunk on the Dean Martin Roasts.

Kerby...
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Lonesome Valley Reptiles
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Specializing In California Kingsnakes

ChristopherD Sep 23, 2007 06:16 AM

Dan Rowen and Dick Martins ........Laugh In

antelope Sep 23, 2007 02:24 PM

Laugh In! We are OOOOOOlllldddd!!!!
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Todd Hughes

antelope Sep 23, 2007 02:23 PM

Bill, in Kill Bill
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Todd Hughes

daveb Sep 22, 2007 04:43 PM

why do you think they cast that crazy looking old guy to be bill? wouldn't it have been "better" to have a smooth acting muscle head young guy?
that crazy old guy is dave, a king of kung fu movies, even today for you youngin's...

bizkit421 Sep 23, 2007 07:55 PM

see Kill Bill... to have seen that movie would mean that I'd actually have time to watch movies... doesn't happen very often with whats now 4 snakes, a dog, a horse, a piranha and a boyfriend....
don't have much time to study for law classes let alone watch tv or movies...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings
1.0 Mali Uromastyx

Bluerosy Sep 22, 2007 01:53 PM

"Pay attention Grasshopper "

LOL! Classic!
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

Ken_kaniff Sep 22, 2007 10:46 AM

>>I just turned 17.
>>
>>Chris

HAHA, that was funny Chris. Ken

chris jones Sep 22, 2007 12:10 PM

35, breeding since '92......

And only ONE kid to show for it!

Ba Da BOOM!!

Chris

fliptop Sep 23, 2007 04:41 PM

Dude, that is too funny

STRETCHx Sep 25, 2007 08:12 PM

!

Nokturnel Tom Sep 23, 2007 06:33 PM

I turned 40 in 07. Seeing I only started "growing up" at 33 I feel pretty good. Snakes have always been a part of my life, the only thing that has changed is it is a bit harder to catch them if they make it to the floor....... Tom Stevens
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CrimsonKing Sep 22, 2007 07:38 AM

It may be dark but seems to have some nice lightening between the bands. Not a "full on" adult. Was it?
Did you keep that animal long?
In '77 I was 19...
did you hear that? (I think it was my back creeking)
feeling even older now, thanks!
:Mark
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Upscale Sep 22, 2007 09:16 AM

To tell you the truth, when I first saw this picture I couldn’t even remember having that snake! And I couldn’t believe I had a skin tight bright yellow terry cloth wife beater either! Then I saw the date, holy crap that was thirty years ago! O.k., too many exclamation points, but you get it. I had to really stop and think, and I did remember I caught this snake out near what is now Markham Park just east of Alligator Alley. This was quite west of town back then. This snake was about 30” long, not an adult but probably about adult color I would think. I remembered it as being a lot bigger, too... I definitely sold this one (I think I got $20.00- gas money for a month) and many others back then. I kept and turned over a lot. I was more into having lots of types rather than long term pets, pairs or breeding back then. Only so many cages in my bedroom, you know? I was sixteen then, so I’m right there with you Tony D. My oldest kid is this age now, yikes, this is getting worse...

foxturtle Sep 22, 2007 01:40 PM

A friend that grew up in Broward had told me he used to catch kingsnakes at Markham Park. Another friend still finds them in West Broward occasionally. Says all pretty dark, usually darker than canefield kings.

Bluerosy Sep 22, 2007 01:28 PM

Dang Mark you are older than me. And I thought I was the old guy of this bunch at 48. I graduated Highschool in '77.

Now I am on a mission to get a scanner. I just went to Wallyworld and they didn't have any without a fax or some other attachment. Anyone have a scanner they want to trade for snakes?

Oh and how the heck does one scan slides? Thats all we used to use back in the 60's and 70's by showing them on a projection screen.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

bizkit421 Sep 22, 2007 01:34 PM

you don't live near a specialty shop that could convert all those pics and slides to digital format for you?
if not, I'll send the pics and some snakes my way, I'll scan them for you lol...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings
1.0 Mali Uromastyx

Kerby... Sep 22, 2007 09:39 AM

From 1976 (Kansas). I have some snake pics...I just have to find them LOL

Now I have NO HAIR oh, and a few more punds.

Kerby...
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Kerby... Sep 22, 2007 09:40 AM

See what happens when you get old.

Kerby...
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Bluerosy Sep 22, 2007 11:11 AM

That a great pic. One of these days i will have to spring for a scanner and post old field collecting pics as well as some early snake pics. I have a ton of pics like that.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

dinodon Sep 22, 2007 01:33 PM

I'm 36, I've always been crazy about snakes and had my first pet snake when I was 5 or 6. I grew up on a farm in South Africa, I don't remember it but my father killed a forest cobra when I was 3 or 4, he said to me don't touch it, he went into the house to do something, and when he came out, he said, I was walking around with it draped around my neck. He did take pics, I can't remember ever seeing them, I live in Taiwan now so not too easy for me to go to my parents place to find them, they still live in SA.

I was very lucky to grow up in such a wonderfull place and have understanding parents that would let me keep snakes in the house, even though they hated them. My father couldn't even look a my snakes he hated them so much, he stopped killing them and if he came across a species I was after, he would, make a plan to catch, it by chasing it into a bag, tin or drum, lol I don't know how he did it, but he did.
Those were the days, wildlife all around, we would have to bring our dogs in at night or the leopards would get them.
The farm is no longer it is a suburb now, with malls and shops.
My parent might be comming to visit in November I'll ask them to bring pics.

Beaker30 Sep 22, 2007 01:57 PM

Whose dog did you shoot in that pic.
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Nuevo Leon Kings
Kunasir Island Rats
San Luis Potosi Kings
Axanthic Desert Kings
White Oak Gray Rats
Corns

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Kerby... Sep 22, 2007 02:04 PM

It's a coyote...I'm sure you knew that.

Kerby...

1979, Kansas fishing
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Beaker30 Sep 22, 2007 10:55 PM

I knew...I was just pissed because now there wont be anymore Roadrunner cartoons.
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Species kept:

Nuevo Leon Kings
Kunasir Island Rats
San Luis Potosi Kings
Axanthic Desert Kings
White Oak Gray Rats
Corns

Coming Soon:

Western Green Rats
Pale Milks

ChristopherD Sep 23, 2007 06:38 AM

First lassie now Flipper .C

Bluerosy Sep 22, 2007 01:41 PM

Love the front pocket jeans, belt buckle and trendy tank top. The tank top and belt have come back around in style full circle now. The jeans I will give another 2 years before we see them.

I bet that lots of the oversize clothes like shorts and stuff will end soon and everytyhing will go back to the 70's early 80's style with more legs showing (high cut trunks and shorts way above the knee) and shirts will get super tight again to show a males torso muscles.

But gosh those large oversized laple silk shirts and polyester bell bottom pants will die forever with the 70's disco scene. I doubt that will ever get resurected much like the pants today which show half of a mans boxer shorts hanging out. You know the ones with the pants down around their knees. ..Boy is this generation going to be embarrassed in 20 years from know. The most ridiculous clothing I have seen to date.

I have no idea where womens clothing is going except it might alos get back to a little more 60's retrosish. Overall I think that the 70's and 80's people dressed up better and their was more style. I liked the whole miami vice type clothing I used to wear back in '83-85 the most.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

Upscale Sep 22, 2007 03:11 PM

I remember the whole Robert Plant thing with really low jeans. People use to split the legs and sew extra cloth to make really big bell bottoms, alot of times from a bandana. I still love those skinny long hair hippie chicks. And our first genetics study involved purple hair indica. When we first moved to Ft. Lauderdale in 1966 we lived in a campground. Every spring break the "beatniks" would invade in tents and station wagons. I would serve as "nature guide" and they would try to turn me on to those albums with the green apple on the label! Turns out alot of us are around the same age group, eh? Hey Bluerosy, I remember seeing Bonnie Rait back in the Miami Vise days and this guy gets up an sings with her. He had the whole Sonny Crockett get up, shades, hair, suit. Looked like every guy in the disco back then, only worse. Oops, my bad, turned out it was actually Don Johnson!

Bluerosy Sep 22, 2007 03:36 PM

hey don't slam the Don Johnson getup. Thats the way i used to look and dress. The chicks loved it back then.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

Upscale Sep 22, 2007 03:53 PM

Lol- man we need more girls posting on here to get a better opinion about that. I probably had on my Jordache jeans and my cool new wave shirt from Renegade, but I was with a smokin' babe at that show! I think my hair was way to curly to pull off that Don Johnson look...
I had the Tom Sellick thing goin' on!
See here, looks like one of your Daytona shirts!

Bluerosy Sep 22, 2007 04:42 PM

Ya you had the Tom Selleck. I drove a ferrari in the early 80's so it was real popular because he drove one on the show.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

Joeycoco98 Sep 23, 2007 08:39 AM

I think you missed your calling as a fashion commentator! For a moment there I thought I was reading Vogue. Just messing with you.

Miller
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