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Tapeworm Sep 24, 2007 11:44 AM

Hello I'm Andrew. I've been reading forums here on various reptiles for a few years. Had a fear of snakes so I decided to get one to break my fear. hehe sissy!!!

Anyways I have a 3 month old male Crimson x Blizzard Corn, He just rules and is very calm, I jumped the gun and bought a female Okeetee from Kathy Love, but I've come to the understanding that if breed together I would get normal corns het for whatever, still tryin to figure out all what it means. So what can I breed my male to that would give me non normals?
also just in case it maters his bottom is all white with only a few feint checker boarding

And yes I know 3year 3 feet 300 gram rule.

I hope to grow in knowledge and be able to post often and interject my 2cents.

1st pic is when i just got him and 2nd is from the other day(camera sux)

Replies (14)

tspuckler Sep 24, 2007 12:03 PM

Yes, breeding that snake to an Okeetee would give you all normal-looking babies that are het for their father's characteristics. To get non-normal babies, you'd need to breed it to a crimson, blizzard or other snake that is carrying the same genetic traits as your male. Since blizzards are a type of snow corn, breeding that snake to an amel or anery "type B" would also give you non-normal babies.

Tim
Third Eye
Third Eye

adamjeffery Sep 24, 2007 10:24 PM

is that a (vp)striped ghost or a lavender?
adam
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"CARLOS MENCIA FOR EL PRESIDENTE"
hybrid breeders association
1.1 puebladurans
1.1 sinacorns
1.1 hypo corns
1.1 crimson corns
1.1 striped ghosts
1.1 kenyan sand boas
1.1 mbk
1.1 albino corns
1.1 childrens python
1.3 ghost corns
2.2 butter(both females motley)
1.0 snow corns
1.0 jurassic milk
1.0 house snake
0.1 anery pueblacorn
0.1 bloodred
0.1 eastern milk (eatin pinks)
0.1 striped albino corn
0.1 albino nelsons
0.1 anery motley
0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
0.1 hypo tang hondo
0.1 rosy boa

DMong Sep 24, 2007 01:17 PM

The most beneficial thing you could do for yourself, is type a "Google" search with keywords like "cornsnake genetics", and "cornsnake mutations"(cornsnake morphs).

That way, you can print the information from these different sites and refer to it whenever you want. This would be the BEST way to understanding everything from the basics,to very complex genetics.

You'll be glad you did this,.......it beats staying "in the dark" like so many others do. All it takes is WANTING to know!

best regards, ~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

JasonW Sep 24, 2007 01:58 PM

You can also make it easy on your self and google "Corn Snake Calc Download" just pick what you got and pick what you want to breed with and hit "Calculate" and it will tell you what you will more than likely come out with
Foot Hill Reptiles

DMong Sep 24, 2007 02:41 PM

Sure you can do that, or "Genetics Wizard"......but that only tells you what you'll get for offspring, and does NOTHING AT ALL to help you understand what morphs are what, or why certain morphs look the way they do, or how they were made!!, or anything about "chromataphores"(pigment cells), etc...etc.......

So again, like I stated before, you'd be left in the dark!!!!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

tspuckler Sep 24, 2007 03:48 PM

Doesn't that corn in the original post look like an amel, and not a crimson?

HerpZillA Sep 24, 2007 04:00 PM

I wasn't saying anything, but I noticed the red eyes.

My guess of a crimson to a blizzard would be a normalish, het for hypo, anery b, amel. Unless a parent was het for something the other parent had.
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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.herpzilla.com

HerpZillA Sep 24, 2007 01:43 PM

Andrew the others pretty much covered it. But DANG it, why must they post pics of their great corns? It just makes me want to get a few more.

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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.herpzilla.com

goregrind Sep 24, 2007 05:06 PM

if you want non normals breed to anything albino, but id just breed it to your okeetee
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jake

my addiction:
1.1 normal ball pythons
0.2.1 corns
1.0 albino cal king
0.0.1 wc garter

adamjeffery Sep 24, 2007 10:21 PM

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"CARLOS MENCIA FOR EL PRESIDENTE"
hybrid breeders association
1.1 puebladurans
1.1 sinacorns
1.1 hypo corns
1.1 crimson corns
1.1 striped ghosts
1.1 kenyan sand boas
1.1 mbk
1.1 albino corns
1.1 childrens python
1.3 ghost corns
2.2 butter(both females motley)
1.0 snow corns
1.0 jurassic milk
1.0 house snake
0.1 anery pueblacorn
0.1 bloodred
0.1 eastern milk (eatin pinks)
0.1 striped albino corn
0.1 albino nelsons
0.1 anery motley
0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
0.1 hypo tang hondo
0.1 rosy boa

TapeWorm Sep 25, 2007 01:14 PM

I agree my snake looks like an amel but it was listed as crimson x blizzard. I think Ive made up my mind and going to breed him with a snow corn(stripe)

phiber_optikx Sep 25, 2007 04:40 PM

That may be, but people with animals don't always know what they have.... I believe its parent were in fact a crimson and a blizzard. But the crimson was het amel. Making that an albino corn. Also, if this is the case, then he is het for charcoal (anery b) and possibly hypo.
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-David Harrison-
.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1. Striped Anery Corn "V" or "5".....Has two names
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
.1 Ball Python "Rocky Ballboa" (Didn't name her!)
0.0.1 Crested Gecko "The Crested Gecko"

"Have you ever tried simply turning off the T.V., sitting down with your kids... and hitting them?"

caz223 Sep 29, 2007 04:00 PM

That particular snake is het for a lot, for example, we KNOW it's an amel.
If in fact the parents were crimson and blizzard, it is packed full of 'bonus genes'.
That snake is most likely het for aneryB, hypo, and crimson.
I'd pair it with a bloodred with at least one bonus gene, and see what you got.
Anybody else?

caz223 Sep 29, 2007 04:08 PM

Maybe an ultra blood het for motley?
Those would be some rainbow clutches.......

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