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Hello everyone. I posted this message in JCP forum but I've posted there and they can be horribly slow at responding. I know you guys are quick and maintain many other snakes other than rainbows, hopefully some of you have a JCP or some experience to help me out with. If you have any information that's great please let me know.

Here's the post copied and pasted from the other forum:

I apologize in advance this is going to be a long post but I just want to get all the facts straight before I get my new JCP, hopefully tomorrow

Right now I've got the cage set up with plenty of branches to climb. I have one set up under the heating lamp and one on the opposite side, to give it a choice as to what temp it wants to be. I have a water dish large enough to soak in, do they soak? I know most boas do but I don't know about JCPs. I have a hide on each side of the cage, one in the warm side and on in the cooler side like the branches so the snake can choose its own temperature. The hide on the warm side is filled with slightly moist moss to create a humid area to hide if the snake likes. I can maintain the temperature around 85-90, is this high? I've found lots of different temps suggested online any where from 80-92 :/ What do you use?

Any other suggestions you can give me would be great. Anything I missed just let me know I want my new JCP to have the best possible home.

Thanks you guys are the best.
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Thank you,

Tim

>>Hello everyone. I posted this message in JCP forum but I've posted there and they can be horribly slow at responding. I know you guys are quick and maintain many other snakes other than rainbows, hopefully some of you have a JCP or some experience to help me out with. If you have any information that's great please let me know.
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>>Here's the post copied and pasted from the other forum:
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>>I apologize in advance this is going to be a long post but I just want to get all the facts straight before I get my new JCP, hopefully tomorrow
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>>Right now I've got the cage set up with plenty of branches to climb. I have one set up under the heating lamp and one on the opposite side, to give it a choice as to what temp it wants to be. I have a water dish large enough to soak in, do they soak? I know most boas do but I don't know about JCPs. I have a hide on each side of the cage, one in the warm side and on in the cooler side like the branches so the snake can choose its own temperature. The hide on the warm side is filled with slightly moist moss to create a humid area to hide if the snake likes. I can maintain the temperature around 85-90, is this high? I've found lots of different temps suggested online any where from 80-92 :/ What do you use?
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>>Any other suggestions you can give me would be great. Anything I missed just let me know I want my new JCP to have the best possible home.
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>>Thanks you guys are the best.
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>>Thank you,
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>>Tim

I have a female JCP that I have owned for 7 years now. I have never seen her soak but have a water bowl large enough that she can. I keep humidity around 50-70% and normally hovers around 55%. Night time lows are around 75 and highs 88 you don't want to go much hotter then 88 at least my snake doesn't seem to like anything past 86. Personally for temps I use 75 low and 85-88 high, after a feeding try to keeps the temps 2-3 degrees warmer in the day/night cycle for 24-48hrs or so. As a adult she gets fed every 10-14 days a large rat. Other then the above the rest sounds about right, while JCP are a arboreal snake mine spends almost 80% of the time on the floor but hunts and sometimes basks in her branches.

Hope this helps.

Do you have any pictures of your JCP?
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."

Thanks for the info it was helpful. I don't have any pics yet but I'll be picking him up tomorrow evening when I get done with class and soon after that I'll have new pics posted
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Thank you,

Tim

Tim,
..I used to breed Jungle Carpets. Like Jason posted they do not spend much time in the water. My adults spent a lot of time on the floor of the cage or hiding inside things. The little ones were more inclined to climb and would often wrap around a small limb exactly like the Emerald Tree Boas and Chondros do. Mine were usually kept in tanks with screen tops and so the humidity was usually between 35 and 50%. They shed full skins with that humidity. I think I used heaters sometimes and sometimes not. They seem to tolerate a wide range of temperatures. They are easy to keep and breed.
Jeff

>>>>Hello everyone. I posted this message in JCP forum but I've posted there and they can be horribly slow at responding. I know you guys are quick and maintain many other snakes other than rainbows, hopefully some of you have a JCP or some experience to help me out with. If you have any information that's great please let me know.
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>>>>Here's the post copied and pasted from the other forum:
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>>>>I apologize in advance this is going to be a long post but I just want to get all the facts straight before I get my new JCP, hopefully tomorrow
>>>>
>>>>Right now I've got the cage set up with plenty of branches to climb. I have one set up under the heating lamp and one on the opposite side, to give it a choice as to what temp it wants to be. I have a water dish large enough to soak in, do they soak? I know most boas do but I don't know about JCPs. I have a hide on each side of the cage, one in the warm side and on in the cooler side like the branches so the snake can choose its own temperature. The hide on the warm side is filled with slightly moist moss to create a humid area to hide if the snake likes. I can maintain the temperature around 85-90, is this high? I've found lots of different temps suggested online any where from 80-92 :/ What do you use?
>>>>
>>>>Any other suggestions you can give me would be great. Anything I missed just let me know I want my new JCP to have the best possible home.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks you guys are the best.
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>>>>Thank you,
>>>>
>>>>Tim
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>>I have a female JCP that I have owned for 7 years now. I have never seen her soak but have a water bowl large enough that she can. I keep humidity around 50-70% and normally hovers around 55%. Night time lows are around 75 and highs 88 you don't want to go much hotter then 88 at least my snake doesn't seem to like anything past 86. Personally for temps I use 75 low and 85-88 high, after a feeding try to keeps the temps 2-3 degrees warmer in the day/night cycle for 24-48hrs or so. As a adult she gets fed every 10-14 days a large rat. Other then the above the rest sounds about right, while JCP are a arboreal snake mine spends almost 80% of the time on the floor but hunts and sometimes basks in her branches.
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>>Hope this helps.
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>>Do you have any pictures of your JCP?
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>>Jason A.
>>"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."
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Thanks for the info I'm going to use a screen top tank for a while at least. I got the branches because everything I've read and every time I've seen young ones they are always climbing or perched on limbs. As the snake grows I'll probably remove the branches to make more room for him.
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Thank you,

Tim

Tim,
...I just remembered that my Jungle Carpets liked inverted clay flowerpots. They would coil around on top of them and go into them to sleep. Jungle Carpets seem to have some personality. When I would come into the snake room they would come out of hiding spots to see what was going on. If I had more time and more space I would still be keeping and breeding them. As you probably know new baby Jungle Carpets are plain looking. Without having a reputation as one of the better JCP breeders I had trouble sellinhg my babies. The ones I kept for 6 months to a year turned very pretty colors and were easy to sell.
Jeff

>>Thanks for the info I'm going to use a screen top tank for a while at least. I got the branches because everything I've read and every time I've seen young ones they are always climbing or perched on limbs. As the snake grows I'll probably remove the branches to make more room for him.
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>>Thank you,
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>>Tim

yeah when I was looking at the babies I was looking for a pattern that I liked but looked more at the parents for color, those babies are drab to say the least. I thought about ordering one from one of the better breeders online but they were so expensive. The one I'm getting may not turn out to be as nice as some of those but if it's anything at all like the parents it'll still look great and for only $100 instead of what some of the more reputable breeders were asking is a steal.
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Thank you,

Tim

>>yeah when I was looking at the babies I was looking for a pattern that I liked but looked more at the parents for color, those babies are drab to say the least. I thought about ordering one from one of the better breeders online but they were so expensive. The one I'm getting may not turn out to be as nice as some of those but if it's anything at all like the parents it'll still look great and for only $100 instead of what some of the more reputable breeders were asking is a steal.
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>>Thank you,
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>>Tim

Tim,
...When I got my first JCPs in 1993 they were in big demand and the price was $375 each for them. Two years earlier they had been $1000 snakes. The last year I produced full JCPs was around 2000 or 2001 and I wholesaled most of them for $35 each. I know the market for them has come back. I got reasonable money for Diamond Jungle crosses I produced in 2004.
Jeff

>>>>yeah when I was looking at the babies I was looking for a pattern that I liked but looked more at the parents for color, those babies are drab to say the least. I thought about ordering one from one of the better breeders online but they were so expensive. The one I'm getting may not turn out to be as nice as some of those but if it's anything at all like the parents it'll still look great and for only $100 instead of what some of the more reputable breeders were asking is a steal.
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>>>>Thank you,
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>>>>Tim

It's funny how the market fluctuates so much from year to year. Kind of a pain for buyers and I'm sure it's no easier on breeders.
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Thank you,

Tim

personaly i would ditch the humid hide and just keep it as a normal hide and as far as temps i would have a single high hotspot of 90 even if it takes getting branches closer to the light etc when he is younger im sure he will use most the branches and be all over but hide all day long lol but once older he wont climb to much other than the two things i said i think your good to go. who did you end up getting him from?

Well I don't have it yet I'm getting him from a local breeder tomorrow evening. I saw the parents and they have stunning color and the baby i want has an almost complete stripe down his back

Thanks for the advice.
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Thank you,

Tim

Congrats, can't add anything cuz I don't know squat bout JCP's

PICS are required though!!!!!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

>>Congrats, can't add anything cuz I don't know squat bout JCP's
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>>PICS are required though!!!!!!!
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>24.36 BRB
>>19.19 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

">>PICS are required though!!!!!!!" (just in case you were wondering what I was hear hearing about.)
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-Jasmine

1.4 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
1.0 Peruvian Rainbow Boa

No worries I plan on posting a ton of pics of the new addition and some of my CRB as well. On the topic of pictures, what website do you put them on before you post them here?
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Thank you,

Tim

I've been using photobucket.com and it seems to work out pretty good. Have even figured out how to link from my website and save space there.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

cool, thanks, I'll have to try it out to post some new pics
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Thank you,

Tim