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NG?....AUSSIE?....NT?....RED PHASE?......WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN

colbygingles Aug 21, 2003 09:27 PM

IM VERY INTERESTED IN FRILLED DRAGONS...ALWAYS HAVE FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS..BEIN DOIN EXTREME RESEARCH AND CAME ACROSS SOME QUESTIONS...WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A NG,NT, AND AN AUSSIE........CAN ANYONE POST PICS OF THERES AND TELL ME WHAT THEY ARE...LIKE NEW GUINEA OR AUSSIE AND WHAT PHASE?....ANYRESPONSE IS APPRECIATED

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johndoe10688 Aug 22, 2003 06:34 PM

Here is mine... it's a NEW GUINEAN
And i don't know the difference between the phases...It doesn't show in the picture but mine has a reddish orange tint in its frill...does this mean it is a male or a red phase?

John

buddy1900 Aug 22, 2003 07:17 PM

Very interesting. Mine was pure yellow as a baby I believe and now there's is only a trace of yellow. If an expert could please interject and explain, that would be great. I was just looking at mine today and he's definately showing red. I can't get him to frill but I may be able to just hold out his frill with my hand and snap a pic. Still working on it.

Mike

buddy1900 Aug 22, 2003 07:25 PM

Here's what Jar Jar looked like when he was a baby. Maybe somebody has some idea if he is red or not from this pic. Still working on a current frill pic.

Mike
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Pennebaker Aug 22, 2003 08:12 PM

Both New Guineas and Aussies show a wide range of coloration--yellows, reds, blacks, etc etc. NGs tend to be smaller and much more common than the Aussies. "Silver" Aussies (also can have many other colors) tend to be larger than NGs with big white cheek patches. There is a lot of confusion since NGs and aussies can show very similar characteristics. If you do not know what you have, you probably have a NG. I have not seen any aussies on the market so far this year and you typically pay more for them. It is also confusing as I have seen dealers sell import NGs as "australian frilled dragons". NT (northern territory) red aussies were brought in to the states and bred here selectively. These tend to be the highest priced animals and often the largest. I have not seen any this year either.
KWE has some very orange and red colored NGs that some people are calling red NGs. As far as I know, there is no established "phase" or "morph"--it is more about calling it the color that you see. Again, NGs can come in a lot of colors--I have one that shows a lot of orange, one that has a brick red frill, etc etc. The ones that some people got from James Tuttle last year come from parents that show a lot of orange.
Hope that helps.
And in my opinion, frillies are far from boring and very hardy. The only reason for them not to be hardy is that so many imports come in in poor shape. If you buy captive bred, or a healthy, treated import, you should have no problem.
Dana

Pennebaker Aug 22, 2003 08:17 PM

As a side note, to make things more confusing, a lot of mixed breedings have taken place as well (breeding a NG to an Aussie). And there are breeders out there who believe that it is nearly impossible to tell the difference anymore.
With my groups, there is a marked difference between my aussies, my NT reds, and my NGs, but that is just personal experience.
Technically, the difference is locale--where they originally came from.
Dana

buddy1900 Aug 22, 2003 09:00 PM

That was actually extremely helpful Dana. I wish your post could stay as a header in the forum. That was the first time I learned all of that. From what you said I am fairly sure I have one of the brick red New Guinea dragons. And I'm glad to know that.
Thankyou!

Mikw

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