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OK, these are no longer in the genus Elaphe, but oh well. I've been working with a group of persica for a while now, but recently picked up a pair of Mandarin rats and a pair of Japanese rats, all proven breeders. In addition, I picked up an 06 female Japanese rat. I was hoping to breed my persica this year, but they seem so small. Does anybody know how big they need to be to breed?

My climacaphora came from Bryan Cole who received them from Tom Harrison and Mike Humphrey, respectively. They were sold as Kunashir Island. If anyone knows about the background from these breeders, I'd be interested, as I'd like to verify that they are Kunashir if I can.

Climacaphora male

female

Mandarina female. I like the fact that this pair is of the gray variety, which I like more than the red phase mandarina.

male

Red phase persica-female

Another red phase persica female

Black phase persica-male

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"I'll be back at 6 if not 7. 8 the very latest but definatly no later than 9...ish...Moscow time."

I like that Climacaphora Nick... particularly the male....

Hey John!

I agree, the male is my favorite of the three. My fiance likes the female's color more, but I like the male. I am very happy with the pair!
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"I'll be back at 6 if not 7. 8 the very latest but definatly no later than 9...ish...Moscow time."

Good to see some persica on the site.

Regards
John

Thanks John! One of those female persica was thanks to a list of breeders you provided for me. Sure aren't many people out there with them.
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"I'll be back at 6 if not 7. 8 the very latest but definatly no later than 9...ish...Moscow time."

Glad to hear I helped out in some way. I'm not usually that useful.

Best ofluck
John

I still have your list, and will continue to refer to it when hunting down some rare rats. Just wish I could find erythrura somewhere.
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"I'll be back at 6 if not 7. 8 the very latest but definatly no later than 9...ish...Moscow time."

I miss working with climacs. I'll email you the details of my breeding stock. I did work with kunishiri's and also albinos. These days my Asian collection consists of Mandarins, coxi, rhinos, and moelendorffi.

Cheers,

Tom Harrison

Climacs are amazing! I hope to add coxi and moelendorffi soon as well, those are fantastic looking. Have any shots of your moelendorffi?

Thanks for the background info Tom! Much appreciated!
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"I'll be back at 6 if not 7. 8 the very latest but definatly no later than 9...ish...Moscow time."

Here's a shot of one. Additional pictures are in my photo gallery. http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/index.php?user=8878&cat=500

I'll try to get a better shot of them and post it tomorrow.

Thanks,

Tom

Thats quite a collection you have! I love the meo's with the deep red tails. Any success in breeding those amazing snakes yet?
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"I'll be back at 6 if not 7. 8 the very latest but definatly no later than 9...ish...Moscow time."

Sweet lookin' Rats, Nick especially the ones in the first few pics.

reako45

Thanks Reako! I hope to display the male at next years NARBC, along with some of their offspring.
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"I'll be back at 6 if not 7. 8 the very latest but definatly no later than 9...ish...Moscow time."