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I was at the Tucson Reptile show this past weekend. I bought an albino "Jungle King Snake". He said she was a blend of king and corn snake. First off, i asked a reptile person at a store here in arizona and he said he believes "Jungle Corns" are sterile. I am a lil confused. if i can't or shouldn't breed her, then so be it, i don't care as i think she is gorgie and a great eater (already!). What are your thoughts/experiences in this. i didn't know corns and kings could breed...Thanks for all info!

Jungle kings are hybrids and no they are not sterile. That cross has been done a lot over the last 20 years and they reproduce fine.Actually more prolific and they eat great. Its something called "hybrid vigor".

It is a fallicy that hybrid snakes are sterile. I guess people with no knowledge first instinct is to assume they are like donkeys, which are sterile.

The proper place to ask this question is the hybrid forum. But you will get the same response there.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

thanks for your info. one question...is she considered a Jungle King or a Jungle Corn?

I've always heard them referred to as jungle corns.

I'm curious - is the anal plate single (like kings), divided (like corns), or does it vary from specimen to specimen?
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x.y L. getula californiae (Cal. King)
x.y L. getula nigrita (MBK)
x.y L. getula floridana (Brooksi)
x.y Pantherophis guttatus guttatus (Corn)
0.1 Pituophis catenifer catenifer (Pacific gopher)
0.1 Heterodon nasicus (W Hognose)
x.y.z Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata - (Cal. Alligator Lizard)

i really don't know what i am looking for. i have both kings and corns and they look the same...let me know what i am looking for and i will let you know!

Here is another question...if i breed her, should i breed to a king or a corn?

>>I've always heard them referred to as jungle corns.
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>>I'm curious - is the anal plate single (like kings), divided (like corns), or does it vary from specimen to specimen?

The one I had, looked like a pure corn. The anal plate was single like a king though... and all of the feeding behaviors of a king too.
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PHWyvern

They are called Jungle Corns
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

Isn't it mules that are sterile? Crosses between donkeys and horses?
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0.1 Lampropeltis Getula Floridana
1.0 Elaphe Guttata Slowinskii

"Isn't it mules that are sterile? Crosses between donkeys and horses?'

Okay I guess your right. But sterility w.hybrids does not happen in the snake world. I guess it proves all these snake intergrated a lot more and that snakes are much more closely related than we all think. I have crossed many reccessive genes from different species and they genes are allelic. Do you know what the chances (statistically) are for that to happen?
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

Oh in no way was I purporting to know anything about snake hybrids and reported sterility therein. My comment was purely mule-related.
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0.1 Lampropeltis Getula Floridana
1.0 Elaphe Guttata Slowinskii

are not sterile... A mule, which is a cross b/t a horse and a donkey, is sterile...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings
1.0 Mali Uromastyx
1.1 Brooksi

lol, I was just about to post that same message. Yes, mules are sterile, not donkeys.
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Holly

0.1 Lavender California Kingsnake (Lizzie Borden)
1.0 Bearded Dragon (Charley Manson)
1.0 Orange Marmalade Cat (Oliver)
1.0 Egyptian Arabian (Bagan)

2.0 Toddlers (Justice & Trevor)

yeah, after I posted that I realized that it had already been addressed in a previous post... I should read things closer before I respond...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings
1.0 Mali Uromastyx
1.1 Brooksi

So snakes don't seem to produce sterile hybrids from combinations within the same continent. Has anyone tried crossing a snake from another continent with one from ours? Similar snakes, I mean, of course. ^_^

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Holly

0.1 Lavender California Kingsnake (Lizzie Borden)
1.0 Bearded Dragon (Charley Manson)
1.0 Orange Marmalade Cat (Oliver)
1.0 Egyptian Arabian (Bagan)

2.0 Toddlers (Justice & Trevor)