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has anyone heard of hypo jani or any other mutations?

As far as I know there are no hypo jani as of yet. I have seen kind of aberrant ones but that is about it. Randy

This is suncoasts reptile: not a jani but still. its a Deppei Deppei

Clay

the hypo deppei deppei is a stunner! they are top of my wish list right now.

Here's my aner lookin nice just after a slough.

RGDS.........AL

Back in '04, I hatched a very light colored jani. She stood out from her siblings in that regard. She is very easy to pick out in the pic. That said, I don't believe she passes the hypo test, as she has grown into an adult that has unusually pale sides with this awesome orange dorsal coloration, but has enough black scale tipping as to not pass my hypo test.. She was a bit on the small side to breed this year. She is definitely a major part of my jani project line...........Stay tuned!!!!

Another pic of this unusual jani!

hey steve
that jani looks like a breedback animal to me.
great looking snake certainly is lacking black
pigment.
thanks for sharing.
joel

I don't know Steve - I wouldn't sell that animal short. If you showed me that pic and said "this is my hypo jani" I wouldn't think twice about it. Are you planning to line breed her back to her father, to a sib, or to an unrelated? I hope this pans out for you.
-Lee

lovely animal you got there my friend.

i hatched a jani in '06 thats got a strange aberrant pattern and i just had to keep hold of her.

RGDS........AL

I was going to post something to the effect that if hypo jani showed up they were probably deppei/jani cross but I must say that jani looks good for hypo. The hypo gene that showed up in my deppei is definitely linked to pattern aberancy. It took me a couple of years to work out who was the carrier but once I isolated it the trait proved simple recesive. This group also threw some annery individuals but they proved to be really weak and we could never keep them alive,(Good job on yours Al)

In some of the hypo deppei individuals the anterior saddles are lost and replaced by speckling or scale tipping as in your jani female. Maybe we will find that hypo melanism in both spp of the deppei complex is tied to pattern. good luck and keep us posted.

ginter

"The hypo gene that showed up in my deppei is definitely linked to pattern aberancy. It took me a couple of years to work out who was the carrier but once I isolated it the trait proved simple recesive. This group also threw some annery individuals but they proved to be really weak and we could never keep them alive,(Good job on yours Al)"

ginter

Thanks John

your info makes real sense to me on these,i seem to have had a somewhat parallel experience (in reverse) to yours John.

For two seasons i hatched out a few deppei with aberrant and/or reduced patterns,this inc. am almost patternless example and a stripey example.
Each time they seemed weak and all eventually died despite my best efforts to sustain them.Lookin back i certainly think these snakes would quite prob been some kind of hypo,although at the time i didn't have a great deal of reference points so to speak.
It was the following year i hatched out the aner from four good eggs,the other three hatchlings were normal coloured and the two with the oddest markings did not survive.
This sort of adds weight to your theory and it makes perfect sense what you are sayin here John.

RGDS..........AL

I have produced a few jani that have had aberrant patterns of all sorts.........Wierd anterior patterns as well as no blotching at mid body, striping and such. I personally believe that this may not entirely be genetic, but may be perhaps a factor of incubation temps. I have also never had any issues with aberrantly patterned individuals regarding health or vigor. They seem to eat and grow as well as their siblings when following my regimen.