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Getting into these guys - questions

iso Aug 22, 2003 12:01 PM

I have been doing a ton of research, but some things are not too clear. Let me explain and maybe you can all help as you seem quite knowledgable.

I am a cham owner. I have a pair of Jacksons in seperate cages. These are high humidity chams prefering 70 degree average temps.

I run a rainmaker JR to keep the humidity up and use some 80mm fans to cool them down occasionally. (I can help you all find ULTRA quite fans!..Im a computer mod guy and can show you all how to build a baybus or rheobus (you can change the airflow/speed of fan by twisting a knob) that works off a timer that you can attach 4 to 8 fans to using one outlet..or one very cheap PC power supply.)

Anyhow - I want to get some pdfs.

I bought 6 18qt tupperware containers to house them in for a quar period. Make sure each is eating and healthy etc...

I purchased some eco-peat..expandable peatmoss...to throw on the bottom of each tub. I was planning to get it wet. wring it out and let it dry on the bottom - about 1/2 inch worth. Would this work as a temp substrate?

now the big one...I cant have a huge cage - although I want to build a nice one. I found a really great one at my local shop. all glass. looks to be a 15 or 20 tall. same surface as a 10, but as high as a 29...

it has a screen top and a screen section on the side with a removable screen section. So good venalation. and with a rainmaker mist nozzle I can get it pretty humid while keeping good airflow.

Can you suggest a frog that would be good? Im leaning toward the tincs. One that will not only use the bottom of the viv, but the upper layers as well? I dont care if it is shy, just want it to look wonderful. Im actually just as into the plant species as I am into the frogs. One that is hardy. One that breeds fairly well.

Id like to keep a group of three to 4. If three - then two males to one female. No mixing of species.

Anyhow - Ive read a ton, but just want some advice. I dont want to move quickly - rahter correctly.

thanks a ton guys!

-adam

Replies (3)

frogger88 Aug 22, 2003 12:41 PM

The substrate for the quarintene is good.

As for the cage:
Sounds like the Oceanic E-Series! I have heard that imitater is a good aboreal very bold frog. Most of the tincs and related species will use the height only when hunting (in my experience). Auratus is a semi-aboreal species, D. Ventrimaculatus is aboreal to give some ideas.

If you are doing strictly aboreal i wouldnt keep mroe than 3 in that size cage.

As far as sexes, most dendros do beter in pairs. If you do 1.2 watch them to be sure that the females arent fighting too much. If they seem to fight alt then seperate them.

kyle1745 Aug 22, 2003 06:51 PM

Couple of things:

1. Look into D. leucomelas, they are cheap, bold, good starter frogs, and like both high and low. They were my first frog and I have been very happy with them. I took the adice from a lot of people that they were great starter frogs and I have to agree.

2. A full screen lid will not keep the humidity high enough. Humidity needs to be about 90% and up. Either a full glass lid or about 90% glass and 10% screen. All depends on the tank really.
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Kyle
www.kylesphotos.com
1.2.0 D. leucomelas
0.0.2 D. azureus
0.0.3 D. imitators

NateW. Aug 23, 2003 04:09 PM

leucs would be good if you want to keep a group, because tincs will fight often if not in a pair.

i think you could probably use like 80% glass and 20% screen for good ventilation.

first i would get all my food ready and remember you can never have to much food for your frogs.

good luck and get ready to become an addict.
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Nate
1.1 alanis tincs
0.0.2 Azureus (soon)
0.0.2 imitators very very soon

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