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Fresh shed Pinstripe..

jasballs Oct 08, 2007 07:01 PM

This little guy is Smokin! I have 3 girls waiting for him. in another 2-3 weeks!




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Replies (33)

BackBeat Oct 08, 2007 07:18 PM

...that's not a 'Grade B' Spinner??

In all seriousness, that Pin would make some incredible Spinners and Spinner Blasts.

Congrats on getting my envy...lol

BB
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"Have you hugged your drummer today?" --- Me

jasballs Oct 08, 2007 08:47 PM

Thanks Man! I didnt think they let anyone over 13 post here anymore!! LMAO..
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Albey Oct 08, 2007 07:41 PM

Jas,
That bad boy is absolutely incredible. What is he now, about 200 grams? LOL

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Albey Scholl
Albeys Too Cool Reptiles
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jasballs Oct 08, 2007 07:50 PM

He is pushing 300g. I know I waited a little to long, But he will be breeding in 2-3 weeks! LOL...
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royalkreationz Oct 08, 2007 07:56 PM

It is my understanding that the biggest majority of males breed at one year. I have heard of them going small, but not too often. If they do, what is the viability of their sperm?
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

1.0 albino
3.4 het albino
1.0 het caramel
0.2 poss het caramel
1.0 het pied
0.1 poss het. pied
0.4 normals (beautiful pastel sibs)

jasballs Oct 08, 2007 07:59 PM

My chances of getting 3 good clutches at his age and weight are 100%
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royalkreationz Oct 08, 2007 08:04 PM

I know that breeding season can be stressful on males. I know alot of males go off of feed and take a while to get going again after breeding season. I would not think that it is healthy, but it isn't my snake. I wish you luck. I am going to give my animals some more grow time. I may be wrong, and don't claim to know everything but it seems a little young.
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

1.0 albino
3.4 het albino
1.0 het caramel
0.2 poss het caramel
1.0 het pied
0.1 poss het. pied
0.4 normals (beautiful pastel sibs)

JSpythons Oct 08, 2007 08:07 PM

I thought the same thing as you did. He sure seems small to be breeding. I have a male pastel that's 300 grams and I am not going to be breeding him at that age, I'm giving him another year at least. I guess its possible but I wouldn't want to put that much stress on such a young snake.
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1.1 Blonde pastel bp's
1.1 Lemon pastel poss. het ghost bp's
1.1 Het albino bp's
1.6 Normal bp's
1.0 BRB
0.1 Western Hognose
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1.0 Gopher snake

royalkreationz Oct 08, 2007 08:13 PM

And, I don't know if you can ever guarantee a 100% clutch rate from a male. I wonder how old and what the size of the females are?
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

1.0 albino
3.4 het albino
1.0 het caramel
0.2 poss het caramel
1.0 het pied
0.1 poss het. pied
0.4 normals (beautiful pastel sibs)

jasballs Oct 08, 2007 08:14 PM

Youll see..
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royalkreationz Oct 08, 2007 08:18 PM

I hope you prove me wrong. Not being argumentative, or questioning your husbandry. Just my opinion like everyone else puts here.
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

1.0 albino
3.4 het albino
1.0 het caramel
0.2 poss het caramel
1.0 het pied
0.1 poss het. pied
0.4 normals (beautiful pastel sibs)

jasballs Oct 08, 2007 08:24 PM

Not at all.. I love hearing opinions from New people! I just have luck breeding young Healthy, nongoing of feed males. I'm use to it so to speak lol
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royalkreationz Oct 08, 2007 08:28 PM

We go by weight for females and males. We use 1,500 grams as a minimum weight requirement for females. It can take 2 to 3 years to reach this minimum weight, depending upon the amount of food she eats and how regularly she eats. We have found that males tend to be better breeders when they weigh at least 800 grams and are a minimum of 1 1/2 to 2 years old.

This is directly from ballpython.com on their FAQ page about ball pythons. #8 to be exact. I would tend to think they are pretty knowledgeable about the subject. Just look at their success rate. But, there can always be exceptions to the rule I guess.
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

1.0 albino
3.4 het albino
1.0 het caramel
0.2 poss het caramel
1.0 het pied
0.1 poss het. pied
0.4 normals (beautiful pastel sibs)

jasballs Oct 08, 2007 08:32 PM

Yea, I get eggs from 12 month old females. Eggs from 800g Females. Clutches from 250g males. Sorry I dont keep a FAQ PAGE.. Dont need one...
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royalkreationz Oct 08, 2007 08:41 PM

I was going to look at your webpage. Is it not up yet?
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

1.0 albino
3.4 het albino
1.0 het caramel
0.2 poss het caramel
1.0 het pied
0.1 poss het. pied
0.4 normals (beautiful pastel sibs)

snakeguy2578 Oct 08, 2007 10:47 PM

Thats nice... I have an 06 CH female that is over 1800g, an 11 month old Pastel female at just over 1500.

In fact, I dont have a single 06 female under 1000g, but if everyone else wants to take 2-3 years to get that size, have fun with that.....

Rockin Pin Jas, good luck with him... What are you putting him on?

royalkreationz Oct 08, 2007 11:09 PM

I have an '07 het pied male at 400g. he eats once every 5th day. I have 4 '06 CBB normals that have gone from 600g to 1000g. I am not going to breed anything this year. I am going to give everything one more year to mature. I think that is the responsible thing to do.
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

1.0 albino
3.4 het albino
1.0 het caramel
0.2 poss het caramel
1.0 het pied
0.1 poss het. pied
0.4 normals (beautiful pastel sibs)

royalkreationz Oct 08, 2007 08:29 PM

New? I began keeping ball pythons in 1992
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

1.0 albino
3.4 het albino
1.0 het caramel
0.2 poss het caramel
1.0 het pied
0.1 poss het. pied
0.4 normals (beautiful pastel sibs)

jasballs Oct 08, 2007 08:13 PM

Yep he is to young. Just keep doing what you do! I'll do what I do... Happy breeding people!
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cknott1048 Oct 08, 2007 08:34 PM

Just how old is he anyways?He is a beautiful young snake.
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0.1 speckled king
0.1 desert cali king
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65 common rats
25 african soft hair rats
100 mice
8 degus
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1.0 sugar glider
1 beagle
1.1 borneo bloods (comming soon)
0.1 hell spouse
3.2 children (kids)

ajfreptiles Oct 08, 2007 11:00 PM

I loved this! Some people get so locked into their own perception...that they can never change!

I have never bred balls....but I would not hesitate to try a 400-600 gram male....I just have to figure out the rest now!
I guess 300 grams works too! LOL!!!

Andy Federico
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royalkreationz Oct 08, 2007 11:07 PM

bred them before. I would not call the experience of people such as Dan and Collette Sutherland a perception.
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

1.0 albino
3.4 het albino
1.0 het caramel
0.2 poss het caramel
1.0 het pied
0.1 poss het. pied
0.4 normals (beautiful pastel sibs)

jkobylka Oct 09, 2007 03:34 PM

It is a perception. God has not handed down a book saying how he intended ball pythons to breed.

TSK has found a system that works well for them and has had proven good results. Its a formula that I and many ppl have found very useful.

That does not mean that it is the only right way and that from henceforth nobody should even think of altering the formula or trying to discover the system for themselves.

Would you be offended if a small male bred in the wild, or would you separate them immediately were you to discover it?

I write this with all respect for the sake of discussion.

Justin
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Warning: Snakes have been shown to cause death in laboratory rats.

RussellLe Oct 08, 2007 11:16 PM

When will figure it out that YES it is possible to breed a 300 gram male, but the thing is its not very SAFE for the animal. It is still way too young and he will not really be very reliable as a breeder at that size. As far as 100% breeding chances go, well more power to you if you actually do get those good of numbers. Im just concerned with the well being of the animal at 300 grams he is probably no more than a couple months old and to already breed him is a lot of strain on him. He may go off feed after the season due to the stress, then your going to have to go through getting him to get back on feed. Its just a lot of grief just to POSSIBLY get eggs out of him. I say wait another year and get his weight up and let him go next season. Just my .02

xXVanXx Oct 09, 2007 09:37 PM

That Pinstripes dad will eat and breed at the same time. He'll hit 10 females a year atleast.. He looks Great Jas..

Greg VanZweden
http://www.vanzwedenreptiles.com/

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happysurgeman Oct 09, 2007 01:34 AM

that is the greatest Pinstripe ive ever seen in my life

please if someone has apic of better looking Pin.... do show

pfan151 Oct 09, 2007 08:11 AM

That is a crazy pin. Too bad it will be dead in a few months because it forgot to read the FAQ page. . Seriously though Jas, good luck with that guy and I hope his babies will end up looking as good as him. Are you breeding him to reduced pattern females? My best breeder male last year was a 400g 06 male that would lock with any female within minutes of introduction. Believe it or not he is alive to this day.

I have a 220g lesser and a 230g albino that will be breeding in a month or two so it looks like I will have to join you as a "stellar example of the dark side of this hobby" LOL.
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John Vandegrift

WALL2WALLREPTILE Oct 09, 2007 05:19 PM

In the wild... it is a known FACT that male ball pythons have to show their drivers license as proof of their age...before they are allowed to copulate!
LOL!

Arrest that snake for statutory!!!

Looking good Jas.

You ought to put that pin on a freaky female.
Later,
Harlin Wall - WALL TO WALL REPTILES!
970-245-7611

JasBalls Oct 09, 2007 05:56 PM

Will do Harlan! Thanks Man!
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JasBalls Oct 09, 2007 05:55 PM

Thanks Bro!! Best of luck to you this year!!
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xXVanXx Oct 09, 2007 09:27 PM

That is the best pinstripe ever..!!! You added alot of weight to him John...Wow. Heres his Mom and Dad.. Female #39 kicks out some nice babys everytime...

Momma

Greg VanZweden
http://www.vanzwedenreptiles.com/

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JasBalls Oct 09, 2007 09:34 PM

Smokin!! I love that MOMMA!! You have the best Pins ever Bro!!
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xXVanXx Oct 09, 2007 09:55 PM

And i think you have the best Mojaves Buddy .. I'll post some of them soon. I'll email you Jas... I need a nice male for these and some other girls. Mom is one hell of a producer even her babys are reduced like her.

He is the best looking pinstripe i have ever seen,, I have some sisters that are a close second.. I'm happy that your happy with him.

Greg VanZweden

517-404-7752

http://www.vanzwedenreptiles.com/

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