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This was a stillborn in a suriname litter from this past weekend. Check out the laddertail....12 bands and almost 1/2 the length of the snake. I also thought the very thick connecting pattern was cool and the fact that it basically had no side medallions. Just a very unusual animal. Hated to lose it.

Mark

So unfortunate, what unbelievable potential there. Even as a stillborn my jaw dropped. Any siblings at all similar? Adam

man that was a good one!!!!!

Man, that stinks! That one was absolutely killer. It seems that many times the ones that are born stillborn are the nicest ones. Sometimes I wonder is there's a correlation between amazing patterns and the fact that those are the ones that don't make it.-------RON

I don't think that was the case here. After dropping 11 babies, mom spent about two hours trying to pass what ended up looking like a fertilized egg that died at some point during pregnancy. it was large, hard and off white colored. As she was straining to pass this she ruptured the yolk sacs of three babies behind this unfertilized mass. My suspicion is that they died inside of her after the sacs ruptured and were not passed immediately. I have had this happen once before. As soon as this big egg passed, three dead babies popped out. One being the one in this thread. Good news is the last thing to pop out was the 12th baby in an unruptured egg sac.

Mark

Hey Mark,
I had a female Suri give 5 large healthy babies, 1 underdeveloped and 5 slugs. The underdeveloped had a neat pattern as well. My theory (not knowing a WHOLE lot about boa breeding) was that the 5 large healthy babies came from a first ovulation from one ovary, and the 1 underdeveloped and the slugs came from a second ovulation that I didn't leave the male in for because I thought she was done. My personal thoughts are that the wacky patterned babies are delivered that way because they didn't get enough time to cook. What do you think?
jb
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Jonathan Brady
"Sarcasm is angers ugly cousin" -Dr. Buddy Rydell (Jack Nicholson) in "Anger Management".

but I would speculate not and here is why I say that. I paired up peruvians this year and they went at it hard and heavy for a little less than 2 months. Then the breeding and courting stopped. Never saw an ovulation nor did the female swell up during courting as big as she normally does. After about a month of no activity I seperated them and just assumed this pairing wasn't going to go this year. About 5 weeks after seperation she had a huge ovulation. Now I was expecting slugs.. but while gravid she looked like she was carrying a good litter, not slugs. Well this past weekend she delivered 11 huge babies and 1 still born....no slugs.

Mark

That sucks.. What a sweet animal.