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Eyelash owners survey; At what temps to you keep your schlegelli?

AnthonyCaponetto Aug 22, 2003 03:23 PM

I recently got a couple of juvies and I've been hearing conflicting stories on their preferred temperature. The breeder, who is apparently very successful with schlegelli, says that room temp is fine. A friend of mine, who keeps many species of tree vipers (including schlegelli) says that is correct. However, I have been seeing and hearing that 80-85 is optimal during the day.

I'm fairly experienced with Corallus (caninus & hortulanus), which seem to do very well in the low to mid 80's, so I just can't understand why B. schlegelli would need to be kept so cool.

Thanks,
Anthony Caponetto

Oh, and here's a pic of my gold/pink "mite" phase.
My Website
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Replies (10)

Venom17 Aug 22, 2003 03:56 PM

Anthony,
I keep my juveniles at room tempature also. It gets up to about 80-82 in the day, and then down to 76 at night. They do great that way and I have no problem. I use a UV light just for looks and for the live plants. Good luck with them, they are awsome snakes!

joe

Matt Harris Aug 22, 2003 04:02 PM

Haven't read that they NEED to be kept cool, only that they can be kept in the 70's since they range somewhat high in elevation throughout their range. I have heard that Bothriechis nigroviridis should be kept a little cooler than schlegelii, but they tend to be found a little higher in elevation.

I too have kept them at 80-85F....even drifting in the upper 80's for short periods of time.

dan pitre Aug 22, 2003 10:45 PM

I am in no way an expert but I've always kept mine at around room temp. without any problems. Good luck Ant. Post more pics when ya get chance.

AnthonyCaponetto Aug 25, 2003 01:03 PM

Dan,

I've been keeping mine at room temp too. If they'll do OK a little cooler, that's fine by me. No reason to overheat them and make them aggitated.

I didn't know you kept eyelashes...how many do you have?

>>I am in no way an expert but I've always kept mine at around room temp. without any problems. Good luck Ant. Post more pics when ya get chance.
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Dan Pitre Aug 26, 2003 12:07 AM

Just my little pair q;D

More after school lol...

creep77 Aug 23, 2003 10:34 AM

Typically, and there are exceptions, but schlegs are considered to be a montane species. From what I've read, it is not all that hot in cloud forests, just humid. Read Marty Crump's In search of the Golden Frog, there are excellent descriptions of their habitat in Costa Rica.
Additionally, I know some of you out there frequent that paradise.
Do you have any suggestions?
creep

Matt Harris Aug 25, 2003 10:58 AM

You pretty much summed it up, but there are schlegelii down to sea level on the Pacific side of the Osa Peninsula. It can get somewhat warmer there as well as being drier than the cloud forest being hit with ocean breezes. The area near Carate holds schlegelii and yet, relative to say, Monteverde, it's less humid, and much hotter. In fact a tourist hiked up the Rio Carate a couple years ago and died of heat stroke being totally unprepared for the temps.

Matt

creep77 Aug 25, 2003 06:40 PM

That is unfortunate for him. Was that particular year's climate unusual or was he ill-prepared? Neither would suprise me. This question is probably answered in the popular literature, but are sea level populations as plentful as tose in montane regions? Also, has an mtDNA workup been done to compare and contrast those individuals?
Also, I wonder if the differences in husbandry requirements is attributable to these differences in habitat. How many of the people keeping schlegs are aware of their exact origin? Just a few things rambling around my head.
creep

Matt Harris Aug 26, 2003 08:32 AM

All valid questions.

Actually it was a girl, that was ill prepared. Inexperienced and didn't take enough water is what I was told. Oddly, another fellow we met, who is a guide/tour operator almost got bit by a yellow schlegelii that was lying on a rock on the Rio Carate.

Anyway, Imports could very well have problems adjusting to temps/humidity levels. E.g., most of the Bothrops asper I have imported are from the vicinity of Siquirres, Limon Province, Costa Rica yet because they are kept in a different area they have adapted a breeding cycle that corresponds to the Pacific season and are born in April/May/June at the onset of the rainy season. The Carribean side gets rain essentially year round, thus Carribean animals tend to be born in Nov/Dec. To screw things up....my captive snakes are due anytime from now through September....makes no sense, as the female is Carribean, the male is too, but was kept in a Pacific climate.

Without getting off track, the schlegelii I have imported are all Carribean, but I have seen very little effect due to temp/humidity. I've kept them room temp...and it's gotten down in the low 60's at night, low 80's in the day....and they all ate within 5 days of arrival from Costa Rica.

Now the Bothriechis nigroviridis....that's a different story. They aren't adjusting as quickly--much more nervous. Also, a more slender animal....so not as frequent a feeder I've found.

From what I've been told re: C. d. durissus mtDNA(and I can't go into specifics), but I doubt the mtDNA of schlegelii within Costa Rica is very different, and thus wouldn't tell you much re:differences in localities. I don't know that it's ever been done though.

AnthonyCaponetto Aug 25, 2003 01:06 PM

>>I recently got a couple of juvies and I've been hearing conflicting stories on their preferred temperature. The breeder, who is apparently very successful with schlegelli, says that room temp is fine. A friend of mine, who keeps many species of tree vipers (including schlegelli) says that is correct. However, I have been seeing and hearing that 80-85 is optimal during the day.
>>
>>I'm fairly experienced with Corallus (caninus & hortulanus), which seem to do very well in the low to mid 80's, so I just can't understand why B. schlegelli would need to be kept so cool.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Anthony Caponetto
>>
>>Oh, and here's a pic of my gold/pink "mite" phase.
>>
>>My Website
>>
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>>Anthony Caponetto
>>http://reptiles.drivennewmedia.com
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