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I guess I wont be in this forum anymore... my frogs both died last night How often do they need crickets, because they hadn't eaten in 2 days before they died. I ran out of crickets and the only bait shop didn't have anymore until today (too late). Is there any other animal that can use the same setup but don't have to eat insects? I don't want another frog if the bait shop isn't reliable.

Christina

Your frogs did not die because they had not eaten for 2 days - something else was wrong with them or with their set up. You do not want to put anything else in the set up until everything has been cleaned which can be and dump the dirt, etc which can't be cleaned. All frogs eat mainly insects and most pet stores carry crickets. I would advise doing some research into what went wrong with these frogs before getting anymore. Hope this helps.
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~Becki~

How often do you change the substrate and the water in the water bowl? 99 times out of 100 the problem is the water source. If you do not change the water in the bowl daily or multiple times a day the ammonia will build up. Ammonia is very toxic to frogs. I would be willing to bet that was the cause. Just keep the water as clean as possible.

Danny
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My spray bottle!!! It completely slipped my mind! I didn't change that as often. I feel horrible

Christina

Were you using treated water in the spray bottle? You don't have to change the water in the bottle, just the water in the cage. But you do want to use treated water in your spray bottle as well.
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Heather

The water was from the tap but I let it sit for a day to get "stale". What do I treat it with? The pet store clerk said I could just use tap. Sorry all the questions but if I'm going to try frogs again I need to do it right.

Christina

You can use the same conditioner you'd use in a fish tank. I use Amquel. It removes all the things that just aging the water doesn't do.
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Heather

Tap water sat for a day doesn't age it near enough to use on your frogs.

If you go to an aquarium, they will have conditioner or ager in a bottle that you would buy to treat your aquarium water.

Grab yourself some of that, find the biggest container you can find and treat as much water as you can. I have two 5 litre plastic bottles that I fill with treated water so I always have a supply ready to go.

Use treated water for their water bowl, and also fill your spray bottle with it. You don't need to change their spray bottle water as it is in an enclosed container and they are not sitting in it like their water bowl.

Good luck for next time, don't be put off, you were given bad advice. Maybe check a few sources of info this time to make sure of your facts.
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mmmmmmmm they shouldn't have dies for only not eating for 2 days. Mine have 3 days in between feeds.
There must have been some other circumstances that cuased their death.

What was your set up like, temp, humidity, water?
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-10 gallon mesh top
-bed a beast or simaler substrate (can't remember brand)
-plastic plants, store bought branches, rocks too large to swallow
-room temp & misted a few times daily
-water changed daily but from tap

Christina

OK I don't know what frogs you had but if they were WTF then two in a 10 gallon is waaaayyy to small. This would stress them out as it is not ideal living conditions. If they wern't WTF's then I am not experienced to comment on any other frog so ignore that comment.

The rest of your setup sounded OK though. Depending on how much ventilation you had and your temps, misting everyday might have taken the humidity a bit high.

I'd say though the tap water was the baddy in this case.
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a 10 gallon tank is too small for ANY pair of tree frogs. Even Green TF, they are too active and roam alot. You can use a 10g as a qarantine tank but not a permanant home. A minimum 20g high shold be used. You said your tank was at room temp, but not what room temp was. Most frogs need daytime temps to be between 75 and 85, otherwise they cannot digest food properly. High humidity for a long period of time can be detrimental to frog health. Most frogs average humidity is 70% give or take 5 or 8%.

Don't give up on frogs. They are very rewarding as pets. Post questions when you need to. Get yorself another pair. You'll be glad you did.

No, one was a grey tf and the other a green tf. I didn't want 2 different kinds but that's all the store had, PLUS they were keeping geckos, anoles, greys, greens, firebellies, you name it they had it in one 15 gallon tank I will fix the water problem and try again, and if I have any more issues I'll be back

Thanks for everyones help
Christina

Those frogs may have been doomed to begin with if they were kept under those conditions, but remember that few stores will keep nicely-sized tanks for their frogs, since the frogs will only be there a very short time, anyway.

The plants may have something to do with it, the water in the enclosure, sickness, a problem with how you got them, etc. But, you shouldn't be mixing species like that and especially not in such a tiny tank. But now you know better, and that's how life goes. So, I'm sorry about your frogs and I wish you the best.
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That may have caused a problem also. I know you say thats all the pet store had, a green and a grey, but in hindsight you should have just bought one or the other.

There are many reasons why you shouldn't mix and I'm sure if you search the forums you'll find them all.

Next time stick to one species of frog per tank and use treated water and I think your next frogs will hang around a bit longer

Don't give up
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