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Hey guys,
So I've been searching around for pictures of turbo corns (gopher/bull/pine x corn), and I've found a few, but not many... And it seems that there are no turbo corns for sale on the kingsnake classifieds... I was just wondering if anybody's working with them and if you have any available. I would really like to get into them, and I'm wondering if the reason that there aren't many is that they're hard to get to work out. Anyway, any information/pictures anyone has on Turbo corns would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

--Jaime
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2.1 Normal Ball Pythons ('04-Captain Jack; '05-BoBo; '05-Queen Latifa)
0.1 Normal Corn Snake ('06-Little Prince)
1.0 Bearded Dragon (Blondie)
2.0 Fancy Rats (Ho0dz, Donnie)

Usually Ben Siegel has them for sale. Not to sure if I've seen anyone else selling them.
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www.mesozoicreptiles.com

I have some hybrids but didn't get any cornsnake/bullsnake eggs to hatch this year. I was able to get a hatch from a cross between a 50:50 corn x king male and a 75:25 corn x bull female. Five of the babies are amelanistic and look like cornsnakes. The other five are variable in pattern but all have the cornsnake head shape and pattern. Since these are going to be the basis for developing a domestic breed of snake unlike anything found in the wild, I'm in no hurry to get rid of any of them. I do hope to have more hybrids next fall.

Here is a picture of the mother.

Here is a picture of her brother. I mated him to a bullsnake female 4 years ago and got a couple of babies from that mating.

Here is a picture of one of the babies from the above male to a bullsnake female. She looks mostly bullsnake but the intensity of color does not change from head to tail as it does in a bull. She laid a few extremely large eggs last year only one of which was shelled. It didn't hatch. I couldn't get her to breed this year.

Bigfoot

i love your stuff, i prefer the natuaral patterns over manmade morphs.

hybrid snakes that look nothing like in the wild have already been done, what hasnt been done is a snake that acts nothing like a wild snake. i want to see a snake that will eat anything you give it from day one, handle like a puppy, thrive in a wide variety of temps/humids, breed most other snakes without the need for coaxing or brumation and other stuff that would make it easy enough for anyone to own (sorta like cats and dogs)

with hybrid you might be able to do thins faster but in time captive breeding alone could do this if we stopped bringing wc into the population. look at corns, you dont always need to brumate anymore.

african house snakes supposedly will breed very easily, maybe you should work them into your project, only problem is thier size.
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jake barney

my addiction:
1.1 ball pythons
0.2.1 corns
1.0 cal king
0.0.1 wc garter

>i love your stuff, i prefer the natuaral patterns over manmade morphs.

Thank you, I have some species I am purebreeding. I am establishing a line of cornsnakes, for instance, in which the founding parents were all caught in the same county, two of them by me on my property. I don't want hybrids that may be mistaken for purebreds, however. With hybrids, I'll probably be breeding for snakes that have cornsnake shapes but not cornsnake patterns.

>hybrid snakes that look nothing like in the wild have already been done,

Yeah, I drool over some of the pictures I see here.

>what hasnt been done is a snake that acts nothing like a wild
>snake. i want to see a snake that will eat anything you give it
>from day one, handle like a puppy, thrive in a wide variety of
>temps/humids, breed most other snakes without the need for
>coaxing or brumation and other stuff that would make it easy
>enough for anyone to own (sorta like cats and dogs)

That's pretty much what I'm attempting to do by mixing corns, bulls and kings. I want easy to breed, hardy snakes that grow slightly larger than corns, will eat even homemade snake sausages but not my fingers and won't defecate on people when they get get tired of being handled. I want hatching size to be large and, of course, I want colors and patterns that make other people drool.

Bigfoot

id be careful adding king into the mix because of cannibalism, because another good trait for a perfect domestic snake is not having to worry about one of your snakes eat another.

maybe you should experiment with black milks (they get huge and colors change to black over time)
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jake barney

my addiction:
1.1 ball pythons
0.2.1 corns
1.0 cal king
0.0.1 wc garter

>id be careful adding king into the mix because of cannibalism,
>because another good trait for a perfect domestic snake is not
>having to worry about one of your snakes eat another.

I need king color/pattern genes. The cannibalism trait can be selected against.

>maybe you should experiment with black milks (they get huge and colors change to black over time)

If I wanted a black hybrid, I'd see if I could persuade my 20 year old Iowa ratsnake to breed a corn. No problems with cannibalism that way.

Bigfoot

20 years old and still breeding! now thats a good trait!
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jake barney

my addiction:
1.1 ball pythons
0.2.1 corns
1.0 cal king
0.0.1 wc garter

I have a male Texas bullsnake/Okeetee cornsnake cross that looks pretty much exactly 50/50. I'm trying to get a female of the same or similar cross or female bullsnake so that I can work on breeding him. If I have to, I'll go with a corn female and a bullsnake female and just breed back the F2's from those clutches.