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So much for co habitation.

HerpZillA Oct 18, 2007 03:42 AM

Ok, I always try to be honest and up front. I've posted reasons here why not to co-habitat snakes. Along with many many others that know far more than me.

So, do I take my own advice? Do I listen to the advice of my guru? Do I listen to all of you? Of course not. I'm not a newbie. I can handle it.

I bought 1.1 07 bloodreds this summer. This past week I took all my f/t peach fuzzies in as we needed then at the shop. I took home 4 bigger fuzzies as I felt they could handle it. I feed each separately 1 fuzzies each. No problem. Then recage them together. Late Monday I realized I forgot to freeze the other 2 fuzzies. I look at my 2 bloodreds and see they are thin already. So I feed each again. 1st mistake I know. I then recage them. I decide to check them very late tonight and see a fuzzy. So 1 regurged. 1 is in a shed, 1 not, and about the same weight.

So who regurged?

NO FREAKIN idea.

I presume the one going into shed.

Normally if separate, the one that regurged I'd skip 1-3 feedings based on condition and size. I also raise temps a bit. Now both are skipping a few meals. Not a super terrible thing.

But it shows co habiting is not great.

Add in I do not know my male from female. Easy to check. But if separate again, 1 less thing to stress the little guys.

I post this, because I know some do similar things. As in go against your common sense.

wei wu wei
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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.herpzilla.com

Replies (3)

draybar Oct 18, 2007 06:43 PM

>>Ok, I always try to be honest and up front. I've posted reasons here why not to co-habitat snakes. Along with many many others that know far more than me.
>>
>>So, do I take my own advice? Do I listen to the advice of my guru? Do I listen to all of you? Of course not. I'm not a newbie. I can handle it.
>>
>>I bought 1.1 07 bloodreds this summer. This past week I took all my f/t peach fuzzies in as we needed then at the shop. I took home 4 bigger fuzzies as I felt they could handle it. I feed each separately 1 fuzzies each. No problem. Then recage them together. Late Monday I realized I forgot to freeze the other 2 fuzzies. I look at my 2 bloodreds and see they are thin already. So I feed each again. 1st mistake I know. I then recage them. I decide to check them very late tonight and see a fuzzy. So 1 regurged. 1 is in a shed, 1 not, and about the same weight.
>>
>>So who regurged?
>>
>>NO FREAKIN idea.
>>
>>I presume the one going into shed.
>>
>>Normally if separate, the one that regurged I'd skip 1-3 feedings based on condition and size. I also raise temps a bit. Now both are skipping a few meals. Not a super terrible thing.
>>
>>But it shows co habiting is not great.
>>
>>Add in I do not know my male from female. Easy to check. But if separate again, 1 less thing to stress the little guys.
>>
>>I post this, because I know some do similar things. As in go against your common sense.
>>
>>wei wu wei
>>-----

It happens
insert SH at the begining of the first line....lol
My advise would simply be to wait 10 days to feed them both and when you do, just feed them both smaller food items.
I would agree with you that it was "probably" the one in shed.
Combine that with a larger then usual food item and it would seem even more likely.
Unfortunately you can't be 100% sure.
It won't hurt to treat them both as if they regurged.
Of course this is just my opinion...
good luck
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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HerpZillA Oct 19, 2007 12:23 AM

>>>>Ok, I always try to be honest and up front. I've posted reasons here why not to co-habitat snakes. Along with many many others that know far more than me.
>>>>
>>>>So, do I take my own advice? Do I listen to the advice of my guru? Do I listen to all of you? Of course not. I'm not a newbie. I can handle it.
>>>>
>>>>I bought 1.1 07 bloodreds this summer. This past week I took all my f/t peach fuzzies in as we needed then at the shop. I took home 4 bigger fuzzies as I felt they could handle it. I feed each separately 1 fuzzies each. No problem. Then recage them together. Late Monday I realized I forgot to freeze the other 2 fuzzies. I look at my 2 bloodreds and see they are thin already. So I feed each again. 1st mistake I know. I then recage them. I decide to check them very late tonight and see a fuzzy. So 1 regurged. 1 is in a shed, 1 not, and about the same weight.
>>>>
>>>>So who regurged?
>>>>
>>>>NO FREAKIN idea.
>>>>
>>>>I presume the one going into shed.
>>>>
>>>>Normally if separate, the one that regurged I'd skip 1-3 feedings based on condition and size. I also raise temps a bit. Now both are skipping a few meals. Not a super terrible thing.
>>>>
>>>>But it shows co habiting is not great.
>>>>
>>>>Add in I do not know my male from female. Easy to check. But if separate again, 1 less thing to stress the little guys.
>>>>
>>>>I post this, because I know some do similar things. As in go against your common sense.
>>>>
>>>>wei wu wei
>>>>-----
>>
>>
>>
>>It happens
>>insert SH at the begining of the first line....lol
>>My advise would simply be to wait 10 days to feed them both and when you do, just feed them both smaller food items.
>>I would agree with you that it was "probably" the one in shed.
>>Combine that with a larger then usual food item and it would seem even more likely.
>>Unfortunately you can't be 100% sure.
>>It won't hurt to treat them both as if they regurged.
>>Of course this is just my opinion...
>>good luck
>>-----
>>Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
>>"Resistance is futile"
>>Jimmy Johnson
>>(Draybar)
>> Draybars Snakes
>>
>>_____
-----
Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.herpzilla.com

caz223 Oct 18, 2007 07:05 PM

Yeah, I had to learn the hard way too.
It happens.

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