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I doubt it, but by chance, would it be possible to combine something like a cornsnake with something like a ball python? Or are they too different? Has anybody tried?

If they wouldn't naturally breed together, would artificially inseminating them produce viable offspring? Can one even artificially inseminate a snake? If so, and I know it is possibly an question I don't really want to know the answer to, but how would you get semen from a snake?

The reason for my question: curiosity and I'm doing a college-class speech on animal hybrids.
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~Sara~
4 Leopard Geckos
4 ball pythons
1.0 Black-lined plated lizard (Lizzy Butt)
0.1 Burmese Python (Pixil)
5 Rats
6 Mice
1.1 Gerbils
1.1 Dogs (Ozzie and Mandy)
0.1 Cat (Isis)
0.0.1 Synodontis Catfish (Big Spotty Fish)
0.1 Convict Cichlid
0.0.1 blood parrot cichlid
0.0.1 African Featherfin Catfish

there is no evidence saying balls and corns can or cant breed

ive heard a zoo did artificial insemination on corns

if your doing hybrids you definetely have to do snakes, have seen some of the crazy things that have happened recently?
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jake barney

my addiction:
1.1 ball pythons
0.2.1 corns
1.0 cal king
0.0.1 wc garter

I heard that a ball and a burmese bred together and produced viable offspring recently. That really amazes me. My baby burm is not even a close to being a year old yet and she is already bigger than the biggest ball python I've had. I would love to hear how the breeder accomplished it. I'm sure it had to be more than sticking them in the same cage. How the hell did the burmese (which I'm assume would be the female) not completely crush the male if they were cohabitating?! I mean, an adult female burmese weighs a LOT, and that poor little ball probably would have been slithered over a few times, ya' know? I wonder if the burm was even aware that she was being bred... I mean, talk about a letdown, package wise

What other unusal hybrids have been created lately?
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~Sara~
4 Leopard Geckos
4 ball pythons
1.0 Black-lined plated lizard (Lizzy Butt)
0.1 Burmese Python (Pixil)
5 Rats
6 Mice
1.1 Gerbils
1.1 Dogs (Ozzie and Mandy)
0.1 Cat (Isis)
0.0.1 Synodontis Catfish (Big Spotty Fish)
0.1 Convict Cichlid
0.0.1 blood parrot cichlid
0.0.1 African Featherfin Catfish

alot of crazy ball hybids lately : ball x carpet, ball x woma, ball x blood, ball x burm.

i bet there will be even more in the near future
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jake barney

my addiction:
1.1 ball pythons
0.2.1 corns
1.0 cal king
0.0.1 wc garter

i have heard of at least one person who used a.i. on snakes but his methods were very unorthadox he actually intriduced a male with a female of its own species and let it breed with her a few times after which he gave the male a 4 day rest period and introduced them again but this time he taped the cloaca of the female shut, thus preventing the male from inserting his hemipene into her. once he seen the hemipene he KILLED the male and harvested the sperm. he then went on to a.i. the female with the sperm.
i never found out if the prgnancy took or not but i can say i dont agree in killing an animal for its sperm. i have however heard of many people who have taped the females cloaca shut and introduced another female and had successful copulations that way sometimes even taping the mouth of the females shut so not to have any cannabalism taking place.
adam
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"CARLOS MENCIA FOR EL PRESIDENTE"
hybrid breeders association
1.1 puebladurans
1.1 sinacorns
1.1 hypo corns
1.1 crimson corns
1.1 striped ghosts
1.1 kenyan sand boas
1.1 mbk
1.1 albino corns
1.1 childrens python
1.3 ghost corns
2.2 butter(both females motley)
1.0 snow corns
1.0 jurassic milk
1.0 house snake
0.1 anery pueblacorn
0.1 bloodred
0.1 eastern milk (eatin pinks)
0.1 striped albino corn
0.1 albino nelsons
0.1 anery motley
0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
0.1 hypo tang hondo
0.1 rosy boa

this instance is completely not the norm and in no way should be taken as such. i believe hybrids have their place in the hobby as much as any other "morph" but in no way does killing a snake for any reason have justification (except if your lost and starving) this is the ONLY instance ive ever heard of this being done and should not be taken into argument against hybrids
adam jeffery

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"CARLOS MENCIA FOR EL PRESIDENTE"
hybrid breeders association
1.1 puebladurans
1.1 sinacorns
1.1 hypo corns
1.1 crimson corns
1.1 striped ghosts
1.1 kenyan sand boas
1.1 mbk
1.1 albino corns
1.1 childrens python
1.3 ghost corns
2.2 butter(both females motley)
1.0 snow corns
1.0 jurassic milk
1.0 house snake
0.1 anery pueblacorn
0.1 bloodred
0.1 eastern milk (eatin pinks)
0.1 striped albino corn
0.1 albino nelsons
0.1 anery motley
0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
0.1 hypo tang hondo
0.1 rosy boa

are you saying that he killed the snake that was already breeding the female, in order to get the sperm to breed it himself? I've probably misunderstood, because if that were the case, why?!

There's got to be a way to get it, I mean, if people can get sperm from chickens (AI is the most common method of breeding production fowl), then it should be able to be done with snakes. Both have their organs concealed.
It would be very cool if someone could figure out how, without killing the animal, because then we could try to breed hybrids that would be nearly impossible to get to mate naturally.

I would love to see a ballXcorn, or even more weird... a burm X corn. A HUGE cornsnake would be awesome, but somehow I think it would probably be impossible geneticly or artificial insemination would have to be used.

What would you most like to see?
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~Sara~
4 Leopard Geckos
4 ball pythons
1.0 Black-lined plated lizard (Lizzy Butt)
0.1 Burmese Python (Pixil)
5 Rats
6 Mice
1.1 Gerbils
1.1 Dogs (Ozzie and Mandy)
0.1 Cat (Isis)
0.0.1 Synodontis Catfish (Big Spotty Fish)
0.1 Convict Cichlid
0.0.1 blood parrot cichlid
0.0.1 African Featherfin Catfish

he let the male breed with one female for a couple of days then seperated them for a couple of days he did this in order to make sure that the male had fresh sperm when he kulled it.
adam jeffery
i personally would like to see if ever possible an indigo x corn
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"CARLOS MENCIA FOR EL PRESIDENTE"
hybrid breeders association
1.1 puebladurans
1.1 sinacorns
1.1 hypo corns
1.1 crimson corns
1.1 striped ghosts
1.1 kenyan sand boas
1.1 mbk
1.1 albino corns
1.1 childrens python
1.3 ghost corns
2.2 butter(both females motley)
1.0 snow corns
1.0 jurassic milk
1.0 house snake
0.1 anery pueblacorn
0.1 bloodred
0.1 eastern milk (eatin pinks)
0.1 striped albino corn
0.1 albino nelsons
0.1 anery motley
0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
0.1 hypo tang hondo
0.1 rosy boa

Indigo X Corn... I may be wrong, but would it be so hard? Unless we are thinking of different snakes, the Indigo averages around 9 feet which isn't TOO much bigger than a large corn snake (at least not in comparison to ball X burm)and they both lay eggs, and they are both native to North America. The problem would be cannabalism.

On another note... would you need permits for Indigo X Corn hybrids like you do for a pure Indigo? If not, it would be a nice way to get around the permit problem. If interbreeding is possible, it would also be possible to get snakes that look a lot like pure indigos, and without the need for a permit, anybody could own an indigo!
And for those of us in places where you have to have a permit for cornsnakes (not that many people really follow this), it would zap that hangup too.

Now, I hope we're talking about the same snake, or I've really wasted my breath... er... sorta.
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~Sara~
4 Leopard Geckos
4 ball pythons
1.0 Black-lined plated lizard (Lizzy Butt)
0.1 Burmese Python (Pixil)
5 Rats
6 Mice
1.1 Gerbils
1.1 Dogs (Ozzie and Mandy)
0.1 Cat (Isis)
0.0.1 Synodontis Catfish (Big Spotty Fish)
0.1 Convict Cichlid
0.0.1 blood parrot cichlid
0.0.1 African Featherfin Catfish

Yeah good luck getting a corn to survive a meeting with an indigo snake. Breeding season or not.
Bye bye corn snake.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.kingpinreptiles.com
^ Updated 10/8

I'm not super familiar with the species. Are they like the pacman frogs of the snake world? I used to work in a petstore, and the manager instructed us to put four pacmans in one cage. I informed them that it would not be a good idea, but I was told "Do it anyway." So we did. And 30 minutes later we had to remove all four frogs because two were attempting to eat the other two, and being that they were around the same size, it didn't work out and everyone was dead.

However, I've heard that king snakes are snake-eaters, and they are bred with corns quite a bit. Is it because they are more the same size that it works, or is the Indigo just way more voracious?

Sorry for my undeducated questions.
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~Sara~
4 Leopard Geckos
4 ball pythons
1.0 Black-lined plated lizard (Lizzy Butt)
0.1 Burmese Python (Pixil)
5 Rats
6 Mice
1.1 Gerbils
1.1 Dogs (Ozzie and Mandy)
0.1 Cat (Isis)
0.0.1 Synodontis Catfish (Big Spotty Fish)
0.1 Convict Cichlid
0.0.1 blood parrot cichlid
0.0.1 African Featherfin Catfish

when breeding king x corn the breeder just makes sure the king has a full belly, im sure the same could go with an indigo
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jake barney

my addiction:
1.1 ball pythons
0.2.1 corns
1.0 cal king
0.0.1 wc garter

i think a black milk would go better with indigo's because they get bigger and as an adult the hybrid would look more like an indigo
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jake barney

my addiction:
1.1 ball pythons
0.2.1 corns
1.0 cal king
0.0.1 wc garter

it would be cool to have a ball x corn, but there are more differences between them, i think they have different lungs.
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jake barney

my addiction:
1.1 ball pythons
0.2.1 corns
1.0 cal king
0.0.1 wc garter