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It's official.......

rainbowsrus Oct 20, 2007 05:39 PM

I'm done for the season!!!

WOOHOOO, woke up this morning to the last litter of the year. Boo had dropped her babies. Definitaly not shabby for a female that was up for sale four years ago. This brings Boo's four year string of litters to 106 babies and due for a well deserved rest, she will not be bred next year.

She had her smallest litter of live healthy babies, only 23 lil slimers. Those 23 bring my 2007 count to 100 born in my house along with 7 born at Mikes (my share of the 17 total).

Litter stats:

23 healthy babies with my largest range of baby size (excluding the twins)
1 - 25 grams (except for the twins my smallest baby of the year
1 - 26 grams
2 - 28 grams
4 - 29 grams
2 - 30 grams
9 - 31 grams
1 - 32 grams
1 - 33 grams
2 - 34 grams my heaviest babies of the year

Total baby weight 695 grams

4 - slugs

Mom weighed in at 3090 grams on 08/19.
Post birth weight is 2029 grams

Mom and babies are doing fine, although mom looks like a flat tire!!

OK, you knew they'd be here.....birthing pics!!!

Mom back on 08/31 looking fat and uncomfortable

Mom dropped the litter in the moss box like most do. When I found them, several had already found their way out and were cruising the cage with mom.

See mom's "flat tire" look?

Come on gang, follow mom, this way is out.....

A little over half were still in the birthing pile by the time I had pulled and put away all the loose ones.




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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Replies (15)

rainbowsrus Oct 20, 2007 05:42 PM

This litter dropped at POS plus 125!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

natsamjosh Oct 20, 2007 06:30 PM

Congratulations on the litter as well as the prolific season!

>>I'm done for the season!!!
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Thanks,
Ed

rainbowsrus Oct 20, 2007 11:29 PM

Thanks Ed, as much as I love the season and finding all the slimers, it's nice to be at the end and have no more to wait for. Now I can move onto next season. Start arranging my pairings and physical locations of the females to accomplish those pairings. Almost time to start the next cooling cycle.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

waspinator421 Oct 20, 2007 06:43 PM

Congrats on a great year Dave, those babies are looking good! Looks like there are some patterns with shed dates and such. That will be very helpful to let me know when to start pacing next year!!
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Aubrey Ross

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www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

rainbowsrus Oct 20, 2007 11:43 PM

Yeah, I think we've done a lot to further that knowledge. One key piece that came by accident is the indication that temps playing a role in lenght of gestation. Also have this years stellar performance of all of my females to contemplate. Each one delivering full term litters with little to no yolk. I implemented two major changes to the overall environment.

1) Switched all my breeding cages over to Radient Heat Panels (RHP's). They seem to work GREAT, supplying gentle constant heat. No hot spots and really allowed the females to thermoregulate.

2) Switched my breeding cages thermost from one Helix controlling the entire cage to a Herpstat Pro with a seperate channel for each level and built in night drop.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

strictly4fun Oct 20, 2007 07:36 PM

I'm not buying any more snakes this year but I bet Dave wants his money though I would love to pick up another hypo this year but I don't know if I can put it together in the next couple of months but I am interested in a female hypo but if they don't have one screaming my name then I'm done for the year as well no more babies for me lol Dave. Now back to your season worked out great for you and maybe we can get Lefty and Daisey geared up for next season and don't forget to tell Phoenix and Diablo they might get some as well Excited about having some holdbacks going next year??? and hope the mice sex is working for you hahahaha
Bob

rainbowsrus Oct 21, 2007 12:10 AM

Hmmmm, don't be surprised if another hypo female "show's up" in my collection sometime soon!!

Bob Bob Bob, how many times I got to tell ya, Daisey has other plans for next year, she's gonna "date" Fluffy this year.

Gonna have several holdbacks going next year including Phoenix , Diablo and Hook for the males and Lucy, Tink Rose and Wendy for the girls. Should be an awesome season.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

strictly4fun Oct 21, 2007 12:13 AM

I got wordy again but I was just implying that Lefty and Daisy were gonna get their groove on just not with each other When you cool at Thanksgiving what night temps you drop it down to or was it is the cool spot you are looking for?
Bob

rainbowsrus Oct 21, 2007 01:05 AM

LOL, imagine that, Bob babbling!!!

I'll drop the daytime temps by a few degrees and increase the night drop from 5 to 10 degrees. Slow lowering of temps and increase of night drop over several weeks. New this year is my Herpstat Pros and they should make the temp adjustments a breeze!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

strictly4fun Oct 21, 2007 12:10 AM

btw cuz I surely forgot in the post

railrider1920 Oct 21, 2007 01:11 AM

Very happy for you.

Well, for me too. I'm hoping that I see one in this clutch that says to me "BUY ME!!!!!"

Some interesting marks on a couple there. crescent, bulls eye and reverse crescent in order on one snake. Can't wait to see them pics I'm sure will be coming. So far, any looking like they might have that blush pattern? Noooooo, I'm not impatient. What gives you that idea?

I should have my ziggy sexed monday afternoon. Hopefully the vet will know about checking for a bulge or no bulge. BRB's can still be probed right?

Again, Congrats!!
Rob
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For Sale cheap: One (1) 6' 19 yr old male. Does no house work. Has no job and will complain. Constantly.
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa-Ziggy
1.0 Creamscicle motley corn--Cozmo
0.1 Creamscicle corn--Wanda
0.0.1 Normal corn
0.1 Black Pine - Spazz
1.0 Eastern King-Ozy
1.0 Bearded Dragon - Gomer

rainbowsrus Oct 21, 2007 02:27 AM

Thanks Rob, I just looked them all over and while they have smokin hot crescents, I didn't see any signs of blushing. I'm now thinking that it's coming from Porky, although he's not actually showing it himself.

Will probably get them all out tomorrow and look them all over better and get some pics.

I already have a ton of new pics of just sheds including one never shown before BRB and some OT snakes as well.

Yeah, BRB's can be probed but only by someone who knows what they are doing!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Jeff Clark Oct 21, 2007 01:25 AM

>>I'm done for the season!!!
>>
>>WOOHOOO, woke up this morning to the last litter of the year. Boo had dropped her babies. Definitaly not shabby for a female that was up for sale four years ago. This brings Boo's four year string of litters to 106 babies and due for a well deserved rest, she will not be bred next year.
>>
>>She had her smallest litter of live healthy babies, only 23 lil slimers. Those 23 bring my 2007 count to 100 born in my house along with 7 born at Mikes (my share of the 17 total).
>>
>>
>>
>>Litter stats:
>>
>>23 healthy babies with my largest range of baby size (excluding the twins)
>>1 - 25 grams (except for the twins my smallest baby of the year
>>1 - 26 grams
>>2 - 28 grams
>>4 - 29 grams
>>2 - 30 grams
>>9 - 31 grams
>>1 - 32 grams
>>1 - 33 grams
>>2 - 34 grams my heaviest babies of the year
>>
>>Total baby weight 695 grams
>>
>>4 - slugs
>>
>>Mom weighed in at 3090 grams on 08/19.
>>Post birth weight is 2029 grams
>>
>>
>>Mom and babies are doing fine, although mom looks like a flat tire!!
>>
>>
>>OK, you knew they'd be here.....birthing pics!!!
>>
>>
>>Mom back on 08/31 looking fat and uncomfortable
>>
>>
>>
>>Mom dropped the litter in the moss box like most do. When I found them, several had already found their way out and were cruising the cage with mom.
>>
>>
>>
>>See mom's "flat tire" look?
>>
>>
>>Come on gang, follow mom, this way is out.....
>>
>>
>>A little over half were still in the birthing pile by the time I had pulled and put away all the loose ones.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Dave Colling
>>
>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>
>>
>>
>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>
>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>24.36 BRB
>>19.19 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

rainbowsrus Oct 21, 2007 02:27 AM

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

run26neys Oct 21, 2007 03:44 PM

np
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Mike

6.7 BRB
1.2 Spotted Python
1.0 Cal. King

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