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I like the looks of the coral glow pastel, and I would like to try to make one someday as time and money allow, I'm not interested in just buying one, where's the fun in that? not to mention I can't afford it, at least not still married Could someone please tell me what the genetics are? or is that a trade secret still? If it's a trade secret that's fine I understand, we all have to make a living, and unfortunely the rest of us poor shmucks had to get real jobs
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1.0 pastel ball python
0.1 mojave ball python
0.1 normal ball python
0.2 3-toed box turtles
2.3 eastern box turtles
0.0.5 3-striped mud turtle
1.0 northern diamondback terrapin
2.1 tiger salamander
1.1 red-sided garter
1.0 anerythristic red-sided garter
1.1 Iowa snow plains garter
1.1 Het butter stripe cornsnake
0.1 anerythristic motley cornsnake
1.1 Blue garter (Puget Sound)

Isn't is a Caremel Albino, Ghost, and Pastel all combind? Im really not sure.
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Got Balls?
1.0 Pastel BP (George)
0.1 Spider BP
0.2 (1 Huge) normals(Beladona,Mystery!)

0.0.1 Gray Banded king
0.0.1 Red phase Eastern Hoggie
1.0 Cat(Higgens)
2.0 Dogs (Boomer,Andrew{Andy})
1.1 Iggys (Bart, Lisa)
1.1 Beardies
0.0.1 Anery Red tail Boa
0.0.1 Savannah Monintor

I thought it was just a Carmel Albino and a Ghost/Hypo? Is there Pastel mixed in them as well? I saw one at the NARBC show for the first time in person, they are REALLY amazing.
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Executive Reptiles
Amanda Kingsbury & David Kendrick
www.executivereptiles.com

Really bad pic of an Awsome Ball, This was at (I want to say) BHBs booth?...I think...Who ever had the Axanthic Pinstripe which was unbeleivably cool..I am so horrible with names..lol

Just for fun the Axanthic Pinstripe which they where cool enought to get out and let us snap a couple of pics...but like I said I was on such a rush from being at that show, most of the pics came out horrible...

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Executive Reptiles
Amanda Kingsbury & David Kendrick
www.executivereptiles.com

that is the caramel glow which is the caramel x hypo.
the coral glow pastel is produced coral glow (aka whitesmoke and most think bananna) x pastel.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

Ralph Davis was talking about them on his blog talk radio show today. I think he said the banana is a sort of co-dom albino? I may be wrong but I think that is what he said. Anyways, he said that if he was working with the project, he would make a banana x pied and call it the banana split. I thought that was pretty cool.
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Happy Herping,
Jody Barnes
Royal Kreationz

My snakes aren't fat, they're big boned.

Where can I listen to this blog talk radio show?

I totally agree with you about making your own stuff. It may take you 3-4 years longer, but I want thm to be mine.

I forget the Coral Glow. what makes it. I do know it's genetics are not secret. I believe the Coral Glow goes by another name as well from another breeder. I think the Coral Glow may be the same as the Bannana...? Maybe? Will Slough (sp?)bred the first Bananna if I recall.

This is only off the top of my head nand may be TOTALLY incorrect, but hey, its a starting point

They are sweet, thats for sure...huh.

The Coral Glow aka: Whitesmoke is it's own morph..
Coral Glow x Pastel = Coral Glow Pastel...

Caramel/Hypo = Caramel Glow

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Jon
Cold Blooded Addiction

White Smoke, yes I have heard this name. I thought people have associated this as being similar/same as the Bannana? No? I know the Bannana guy says no...

well if you are marketing an animal as a "you have to buy from me" type of animal, of course you are going to say an animal that looks just like it as a hatchling and as an adult isn't the same thing.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

the consencus answer figured out yet, I'm a bit confused.
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1.0 pastel ball python
0.1 mojave ball python
0.1 normal ball python
0.2 3-toed box turtles
2.3 eastern box turtles
0.0.5 3-striped mud turtle
1.0 northern diamondback terrapin
2.1 tiger salamander
1.1 red-sided garter
1.0 anerythristic red-sided garter
1.1 Iowa snow plains garter
1.1 Het butter stripe cornsnake
0.1 anerythristic motley cornsnake
1.1 Blue garter (Puget Sound)

According to NERD's book, its Banana x Pastel. In the book, the Coral Glow is listed as Coral Glow aka Whitesmoke, Banana Ball.
I guess all three are the same mutation.

Hope this helps,
Shelly

Yup. I dont think they guy who owns the Banana(sp?)Ball wants to associate the Whitesmake snake as being similar/same as his... There is some conflict there I believe.

so starting from the bottom I would need a F-carmel, F-lavender, and M-albino. I have seen carmel but not sure what a lavender is? Make some carmel albinos and some lavender albinos then cross them to make a coral glow, then cross the coral glow to pastel to make the coral glow pastel. hmmm correct me if I am wrong about anything here, it will take 6 yrs. to produce coral glow? I'm sure something is wrong here.
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1.0 pastel ball python
0.1 mojave ball python
0.1 normal ball python
0.2 3-toed box turtles
2.3 eastern box turtles
0.0.5 3-striped mud turtle
1.0 northern diamondback terrapin
2.1 tiger salamander
1.1 red-sided garter
1.0 anerythristic red-sided garter
1.1 Iowa snow plains garter
1.1 Het butter stripe cornsnake
0.1 anerythristic motley cornsnake
1.1 Blue garter (Puget Sound)

Coral Glow is a dominant (or maybe co-dom) morph, not a combo... you have mail!

thanks for the clarification, I didn't realize that coral glow or whatever you call it was it's own morph, I guess I just ASSumed it was a combo by looking at it.
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1.0 pastel ball python
0.1 mojave ball python
0.1 normal ball python
0.2 3-toed box turtles
2.3 eastern box turtles
0.0.5 3-striped mud turtle
1.0 northern diamondback terrapin
2.1 tiger salamander
1.1 red-sided garter
1.0 anerythristic red-sided garter
1.1 Iowa snow plains garter
1.1 Het butter stripe cornsnake
0.1 anerythristic motley cornsnake
1.1 Blue garter (Puget Sound)

I saw a coral glow on the nerd site