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first off it was nice to meet you and tom in daytona this year. im hoping to make it next year.
but i was wondering about the New England line axanthics you have, i dont ever see any for sale that look quite like yours. are they a derrivitive of the lemke line or a completely differant line all together?
pm me or email me at farfrumugen@verizon.net
adam jeffery
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"CARLOS MENCIA FOR EL PRESIDENTE"
hybrid breeders association
1.1 puebladurans
1.1 sinacorns
1.1 hypo corns
1.1 crimson corns
1.1 striped ghosts
1.1 kenyan sand boas
1.1 mbk
1.1 albino corns
1.1 childrens python
1.3 ghost corns
2.2 butter(both females motley)
1.0 snow corns
1.0 jurassic milk
1.0 house snake
0.1 anery pueblacorn
0.1 bloodred
0.1 eastern milk (eatin pinks)
0.1 striped albino corn
0.1 albino nelsons
0.1 anery motley
0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
0.1 hypo tang hondo
0.1 rosy boa

The New Englands are a completly different "line" altogether.

I did breed the Lemke and NE line to each other years ago and the genes are allelic. So they are the same "strain" just a different phenotype. The group of herpers who originated the line got them from the canal area in s. Dade co florida. They lived in the New England part of the United States. That how the line got its name "New England".

What is strange (I have been selling this line for 12 years) I never see anyone breeding pure New Englands. I guess they magically dissapeared into the hobby(?). I have seen some advertised as New Englands. But after further research discover those are either outcrossed New Englands (which changes thier look a LOT) or the seller is just "using" the name ( aka stealing, borrowing, misrepresenting ect). We have seen this a lot on the classifieds where brokers and breeders sell common brooks kings with a fancy name they hear like Peanut Butter, Sulfur ,,,,hey at least the Florida kingsnake morphs are getting the attention. ART is always copied.

New England neonate
http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={5C333D9C-96E6-43B9-9FBF-16879AD65F5E}&exp=f&moddt=38670.9895549769&ssdyn=1
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

Oops pushed the post button to soon. Here is the picture and thanks for asking that question!

New England neonate

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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

I think “the canal” is something of a myth. A lot of Brooks were turned up throughout the agricultural area (and irrigation ditches) of southern Dade County. There were probably a handful of collectors that specifically targeted Loop Road and a few areas right along easy access paved roads, but a few Brooks probably could be from Flamingo or Cape Sabal. I can assure you they were just a bit different in each little locality. Those bone white genetics wouldn’t be from those dark muckland fields or the Redlands. I’m betting they are unique to some specific salt water estuary type habitat where the ground is a similar white coral or limestone rock. Those neonates have a unique look to them. I think they make the case for “Brooks” being a real thing, whatever they want to call them.

if you dont mind me asking what do they normally go for?
i may be interested in a pair at some point.
adam jeffery
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"CARLOS MENCIA FOR EL PRESIDENTE"
hybrid breeders association
1.1 puebladurans
1.1 sinacorns
1.1 hypo corns
1.1 crimson corns
1.1 striped ghosts
1.1 kenyan sand boas
1.1 mbk
1.1 albino corns
1.1 childrens python
1.3 ghost corns
2.2 butter(both females motley)
1.0 snow corns
1.0 jurassic milk
1.0 house snake
0.1 anery pueblacorn
0.1 bloodred
0.1 eastern milk (eatin pinks)
0.1 striped albino corn
0.1 albino nelsons
0.1 anery motley
0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
0.1 hypo tang hondo
0.1 rosy boa