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alright i have now 2 adult females that have been showing signs that they want to reed such as arm waving and slow head bobbs to my male. This was after brumation. I put them all together on the floor, again, except with the new female, and my male tried breeding with both of them, but they kept "swimming" and trying to get away. I put them together individually and the same thing happened. Should i just feed the females MORE than i am now, or what?

also, the 2 females were living in harmony for a few months, but lately the smaller female was head bobbing to the bigger one, and the bigger one runs away. Poor girl. Well, could this be it? the bigger female looks ready! but she just wont have to my male, who breeds ernestly, i know he knows how to breed, as he has bred 2 times before. Well, any help will be appreciated.

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~David - KDRKreatures
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1.2 Bearded dragons (Ralph, Artemis, Cheech)
1.0 Veiled Chameleon (Chiquito)
1.0 Black Racer Snake (Chong)
2.2 Eastern Box Turtles (Athena, Mercury, Gizmo, Galapago)
0.0.2 Leopard Geckos (Nee, Unnamed)
1.0 Ball Python (Carson)

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the waving and bowing is not just a breeding signal, it is the basic social interaction signs, they will do it to male and other females wheneer they see a new one or want to interact, not just breed.

The male will not breed them until they allow it, he knows he risks too much chance of serious damage (males can and have lost their sexual organs).

I am curious, you brumated them in the summer? This is very late in the season to start a breeding cycle, this is the time of year that most are starting to show signs of brumation if they sleep.

When they are ready, they will circle each other, and the female will have her tail raised, often flicking the end of it like a cat. IF it is down and they are swimming like in air, they are trying to get away and not ready yet, they may know that this is late season and statistically later season clutches do not thrive as well are early season ones.

they started brumating (my male did) in may, i was like hmm, and then i just put the lights down because he wouldnt come outta his cave, slept all day, and soon my bigger female did too.(same timer, diff cages) she also wiggles her tail. Should i just wait for next year? thanks
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~David - KDRKreatures
My Main Herps-
1.2 Bearded dragons (Ralph, Artemis, Cheech)
1.0 Veiled Chameleon (Chiquito)
1.0 Black Racer Snake (Chong)
2.2 Eastern Box Turtles (Athena, Mercury, Gizmo, Galapago)
0.0.2 Leopard Geckos (Nee, Unnamed)
1.0 Ball Python (Carson)

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I assume you have them inside and it was cool from A/C? As that is not the normal time they brumate in the US.(it is in Australia)

I wonder what they are going to do when it actually gets cold in winter? If they will try to sleep again?

I don't know maybe some others out there can help that have done this, I know I have heard of breeders that simulate different season so they have dragons down and producing eggs at different times, I don't know how that works though.

I do know, whatever cycle you use, it is very important to be consistant with it.

np
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~David - KDRKreatures
My Main Herps-
1.2 Bearded dragons (Ralph, Artemis, Cheech)
1.0 Veiled Chameleon (Chiquito)
1.0 Black Racer Snake (Chong)
2.2 Eastern Box Turtles (Athena, Mercury, Gizmo, Galapago)
0.0.2 Leopard Geckos (Nee, Unnamed)
1.0 Ball Python (Carson)

KDRKreatures-Home Page
My Email

Hi there,
It sounds to me like your smaller one is just being dominant to the larger one, I have a smaller one who head bobs at the larger females, she is not threatening them though.