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Help with regurgitation

justinmatthew Nov 07, 2007 09:52 PM

One of my late 06 hatchlings regurgitates just about every meal it eats. I'm feeding small pinkies so size shouldn't be a problem, temps are good and its a rack and all my others in that rack are good, it has hiding spots, any suggestions as to what I can do? It is really really tiny and I am afraid for its health.

Replies (9)

HerpZillA Nov 07, 2007 10:00 PM

I'm in the middle of a number of snakes regurging all several weeks ago. But my issue was clear my temps were to high on accident.

What bedding type?
What temps? And it the thermometer on teh floor where the snake lives? not on the glass (especially aquarium stick ons)
Is he on the cool end or warm end?
What does he do after he eat? Active or sits?
How long after he eats does he regurge?
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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

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justinmatthew Nov 07, 2007 10:10 PM

Thanks Tom,

On the high end its mid 80s, about 86, and 70s on cool end. I've got a temp gun so I can measure each aspect of the area, and its newspaper as a substrate.

HerpZillA Nov 07, 2007 10:15 PM

>>Thanks Tom,
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>> On the high end its mid 80s, about 86, and 70s on cool end. I've got a temp gun so I can measure each aspect of the area, and its newspaper as a substrate.

"70's" is a big range. 77-78 ok 71-72 maybe not.

But does not sound wrong. Snakes are funny. Go off feed, and I have seen just a few snakes do what yours in doing. Most people extented non feeding period, of course no handling, as you want no stress. Keep separate too.

Any changed resently?
things you clean teh cages with, tubs themself,, anything.
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Big Tom

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HerpZillA Nov 08, 2007 08:36 AM

Tim added good stuff about a smaller cage. As did the others.
We really need a list for common stuff.

But, and this is probably not your case, but if your snake was very thirsty, say his water went dry. You see that and feed then give water. The snake now eats and drinks a lot of water and I guess? The displacement causes him to regurge.

Good luck

wu wei
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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

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DMong Nov 08, 2007 01:01 AM

Constant, continual regurges are the quickest way to kill the snake!

It keeps depleting the animal's acidic/enzyme balance and just makes things worse fast!

This can be caused by any number of things really, but it could be amoebic in nature, and would probably benefit greatly with a dose of Flagyl(Metronidazole) given at 50 mg/kg of body weight(repeated in 14 days), But I'd recommend it be done by a good reptile vet, and SOON!

It can EASILY pull through this if you get it to a vet soon, and not too much time has already lapsed, if not,....the snake is probably doomed.

I've administered this to some of my own snakes in the past that were regurging, and it was stopped right in it's tracks!

but don't guess anymore about it, do the right thing, and get the animal to a vet.......FAST!

good luck! ~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

tspuckler Nov 08, 2007 07:39 AM

It's a good idea to wait two weeks before trying to feed a snake after it regurges. Since the snake is a yearling, it's big enough to go without food for that period of time. After waiting two weeks, feed the snake a smaller-than-usual food item.

The snake may be regurging because it isn't feeling secure - moving it to a smaller enclosure often is the solution in these situations.

Continually feeding a snake and having it regurge irritates the snake's GI tract, further causing damage to what already is a less-than-ideal circumstance.

It may be possible that your snake needs veterinary help.

Tim
Third Eye
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draybar Nov 08, 2007 05:07 PM

>>One of my late 06 hatchlings regurgitates just about every meal it eats. I'm feeding small pinkies so size shouldn't be a problem, temps are good and its a rack and all my others in that rack are good, it has hiding spots, any suggestions as to what I can do? It is really really tiny and I am afraid for its health.

Tim touched on some good points
wait around 10 days after it's last regurge before feeding again.
When you do feed it make sure to feed it a smaller food item. If it is on small pinkies just feed it a pinkie head. If it is on large pinkies feed it the smallest pinkie you can find.
Just go with something smaller.
If it keeps that down wait about a week and feed a small item again.
Do this three or four feedings before going back up to it's normal sized food item.
I've been through it and when I got back to normal sized prey I would take a razor blade and run a couple slices down the sides of the pinkie.
It seems to help them digest.
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Jimmy Johnson
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Draybars Snakes

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justinmatthew Nov 09, 2007 09:22 AM

thanks for all the help with everything. One thing I could do is switch it over to a smaller tub. I'll also probably try to get it into the vet i've taken some of my ball pythons to before on monday, see what she says. once again thanks for the help.

btorgy Nov 11, 2007 09:20 AM

One thing no one has mentioned is to add pro-biotics to the pinky! There is one specifically for reptiles called NutriBac. It replaces the healthy bacteria that is lost with regurgitation. I have done as mentioned, slitting the pinky along the spine, then sprinkled the NutriBac in the open area. Helps alot!
Also, just to throw this out there, the waiting two weeks is sometimes scary if your animal is as you say "so tiny". I had a female Bairdi that just wouldn't grow, and regurged about once a month for awhile when she was little. I tried everything, and finally decided it was "kill or cure" time to experiment. Using the NutriBac I fed her small meals every 2 to 3 days, thinking to grow her past this "problem". And for her it really worked. She is now a good size and past the regure problem.
Hope this helps!
Beth

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