Reptile & Amphibian Forums

Welcome to kingsnake.com's message board system. Here you may share and discuss information with others about your favorite reptile and amphibian related topics such as care and feeding, caging requirements, permits and licenses, and more. Launched in 1997, the kingsnake.com message board system is one of the oldest and largest systems on the internet.

Click here to visit Classifieds
Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You

Crazy Genetic Breakdown

Lamiellm Nov 09, 2007 01:36 PM

Ok this is what I have right now.2.2 het albino, 0.1 albino,1.1 het orange ghost, 1.1 het caramel, 1.1 pastels, 1.0 cinnamon, and 0.1 mojave. I am getting ready to get a spider female and a male Superpastel. I have $2000 to spend so $1000 will go towards the super pastel. $400 for the spider and I have $600 left. Should I save the extra money for a female pin. Since the only thing I'm breeding the female pastel to is a cinnamon. So the male pastel might get bred to a couple normals and maybe the pinstripe. Does that sound like the best plan.

superpastel x mojave
Superpastel x spider
pastel x cinnamon
pastel x normals
superpastel x pinstripe
maybe superpastel x 2 normals

That my plan. Does it sound about right? Or get a male pinstripe and breed him to my albino would I get DH pinstriped Albinos?

Replies (17)

LadyOhh Nov 09, 2007 02:24 PM

Pins are co-dom, so you would have Pins het albino.

As for the other stuff, do what you like.
Buy what you like.
If you can't decide, don't buy anything.

Wait until inspiration hits, and you say... HEY! I like that combo, I want to do that.
-----
www.HeathersHerps.com

-Ohh, what a Lady-

Balls for Life, Baby!

Lamiellm Nov 09, 2007 03:04 PM

Im just not good with alot of these new genetics out! Soo many co-dom and recessives!! Mixes my mind up! LOL

Lamiellm Nov 09, 2007 07:01 PM

Can someone give me the breakdown of my outcome considering 8 eggs a clutch?

Lamiellm Nov 09, 2007 07:06 PM

Can someone give me the outcome from the second message using 8 eggs as a reference

Lamiellm Nov 09, 2007 07:08 PM

.

LadyOhh Nov 09, 2007 07:09 PM

Which hypothetical clutch are you referring to?
-----
www.HeathersHerps.com

-Ohh, what a Lady-

Balls for Life, Baby!

Lamiellm Nov 09, 2007 07:21 PM

What is my outcome from breeding the above animals together using 8 eggs as a control.

JasBalls Nov 09, 2007 07:30 PM

I never tried eggs as a control, But helix makes a very good one! So I never had to try it.. Let us know how the eggix works!
-----
http://www.jasballpythons.com./

Lamiellm Nov 09, 2007 07:34 PM

LOL I was just wondering what I would get if I bred those animals together. I was saying use 8 eggs so you could say 4 superpastels 2 pastels and 2 normals. LOL Sorry I made it soo confusing. And I'm a science major. Sorry for the mix up.

LadyOhh Nov 09, 2007 07:38 PM

What animals are you referring to?

You listed several.

Give me your supposed pairings, and I can help you.

Clarify.
-----
www.HeathersHerps.com

-Ohh, what a Lady-

Balls for Life, Baby!

Lamiellm Nov 09, 2007 08:15 PM

superpastel x mojave
Superpastel x spider
pastel x cinnamon
pastel x normals
superpastel x pinstripe
maybe superpastel x 2 normals

LadyOhh Nov 09, 2007 10:40 PM

superpastel x mojave = 50% Pastaves and 50% Pastels

Superpastel x spider = 50% Bumblebees and 50% Pastels

pastel x cinnamon = 25% Pewter, 25% Pastel, 25% Cinny, 25% Normal

pastel x normals = 50% Normals and 50% Pastels

superpastel x pinstripe = 50% Lemon Blasts and 50% Pastels

superpastel x normals = All Pastels

You can do the math with your 8 egg theory.
-----
www.HeathersHerps.com

-Ohh, what a Lady-

Balls for Life, Baby!

BrandonSander Nov 10, 2007 12:18 AM

Lamiellm, LadyOhh's percentages are right... however, the percentages are not PER CLUTCH. Instead, the percentages are per egg.

For example, in you Mojave x Super Pastel clutch each egg will have a 50% chance of being either a Pastave (Pastel Mojave) or straight Pastel.

If you start thinking of the percentages as a "per egg" probability instead of a "per clutch" probability it will not only make it easier to track, but will reduce some of the pressure you may feel to produce large clutches.

Every time you see percentages you can rest assured that each egg in the clutch has those same chances... that is why you can end up with an entire clutch of homozygous animals in a het. x het. breeding or nothing but wild types in a codom x wild type pairing.

Lamiellm Nov 10, 2007 10:22 AM

Thank you all very much for your input! Does anyone have a picture of a postave, pewter, and a lemon blast??

LadyOhh Nov 11, 2007 01:30 AM

looking them up on a search engine. There are plenty of pictures of said morphs on the web.

OR! You could ask for some in a different thread and see who comes up with some for you.

They are some awesome combos though

Good luck with your season, what ever you decide.
-----
www.HeathersHerps.com

-Ohh, what a Lady-

Balls for Life, Baby!

wh00h0069 Nov 10, 2007 10:12 AM

If it were me, I would get a visual albino male. You could pick one up for 600-700. You could then sell your 2 het albino males. My reasoning is, you would make more albino's this way, and everthing that comes out , that is not a visual, will be 100% hets, not possible hets (as with two hets bred together.) You would probably only make 50 of each male, but you may be able to get another normal females with your profit. Just something to think about... Hope this helps.

yeahyeah Nov 10, 2007 11:02 AM

I say if you already have a male and female pastel don't spend 1000 on a super.

Site Tools