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Question about albino breeding

escapethisall Nov 13, 2007 09:57 PM

im new to breeding and i wish to know more about how het works... say i have this snake - 100% het Anery and 66% het Albino, born from an Arab h/albino to an Anery h/albino. and i breed it with a "normal" bci... what will i get? will they all just look like my normal bci? will they be better priced than if i just used two normals? what would i need to get for that first snake to have some albinos?

Replies (5)

boachris Nov 13, 2007 10:04 PM

Here is a site that helped me get a basic understanding of basic genetics.

http://www.ballpythons.ca/what_get/recessive.html

To my understanding, your offspring couldn't be considered even 50% het until you proved out your 66% het albino to find out if it was in fact het.

I'm sure many more qualified people will help more!!!
Link

escapethisall Nov 13, 2007 10:12 PM

ok so the answer is no albinos haha

boachris Nov 13, 2007 10:24 PM

You'd need to know if your albino was in fact het, and then you'd need a homo albino. Then you should get half of them albino. Because she'd be 100% het Anery, you'd have 50% het Anery if you bred her to a normal (assuming Anery is recessive...I think it is???).
The calculator on that page is fun to play with! LOL

natsamjosh Nov 13, 2007 10:40 PM

Not sure about the Arabesque pattern, but since anerythrism and ablinism are both recessive traits, none of the offspring will be anery or albino. (To get an albino offspring, each parent has to have at least one mutant albino allele, which means it has to be either ablino or het for albino.) Statistically speaking, there's a 66% chance of the following:
1/4 off the offspring will be het for neither
1/4 will be het anery only
1/4 will be het for albino only
1/4 will be het for both

There's a 33% chance that:
0 will be het for albino
1/2 will be het for anery
1/2 will be normal (net for neither)

Not sure about pricing, but personally I wouldn't pay much more for a "50% het for anery, (.66*50%) het for albino snake. Again, not sure about the Arabesque pattern. From what I read, that is not recessive. So it might be possible some of the offspring could show some Arabesque-type pattern.

Hopefully I calculated that correctly. If not, I hope someone will correct me!

>>im new to breeding and i wish to know more about how het works... say i have this snake - 100% het Anery and 66% het Albino, born from an Arab h/albino to an Anery h/albino. and i breed it with a "normal" bci... what will i get? will they all just look like my normal bci? will they be better priced than if i just used two normals? what would i need to get for that first snake to have some albinos?

PGoss Nov 14, 2007 08:51 AM

"im new to breeding and i wish to know more about how het works... say i have this snake - 100% het Anery and 66% het Albino, born from an Arab h/albino to an Anery h/albino. and i breed it with a "normal" bci... what will i get? will they all just look like my normal bci? will they be better priced than if i just used two normals? what would i need to get for that first snake to have some albinos?"

Your boa is a normal sibling from an arabesque litter, so the arabesque gene does not play a role in your future breedings. In other words, your boa does not carry the arabesque gene and cannot produce arabesques. No normal boas carry the arabesque gene. It works in the same manner as hypomelanism in boas. If you breed an arabesque to a normal boa, 50% of the litter should be arabesque. However, some arabesque siblings do still have the nice yellow, arabesque color, but not the pattern. That trait may be inherited.

Your sanke is only a possible het. albino, so you have two choices to prove him/her out. You can buy a 100% het albino or an albino and breed them. If you get albinos, you know your boa is a het. If your boa is a het, and you bred him another het, 25% of the litter should be albino. If you bred him to an albino, 50% of the litter should be albino. If you have even a small litter, say 10 or more babies, and none of them are albino from either your boa x het or your boa x albino breeding, then your boa most likely is not a het. If you have a very small litter, say 2 or 3 babies, that does not prove much. You may have just had bad luck with the odds. Here is an example. In the first litter that produced albinos, the first 16 babies came out normal before an actual albino was born.

If you want to produce albinos, I would purchase two 100% het. albino boas and go from there. With your boa, you could purchase a DH snow (100% het anery and 100% het albino) and breed them. You have the definite genetics to make more anerys. If your boa hits as being 100% het. albino, you could also produce albinos and you have a 1/16 shot of making a snow boa.

As for breeding your boa to a normal, you will get all normal boas. 50% of them will have the anery gene and 50% or none of them will be het. albino, depending if your boa is actually het or not. There will not be able to determine which ones are het. anery, or if they are het. albino.

When dealing with hets., it is always important to buy boas from someone you trust or a reputable breeder. Anyone with normal boas can say they have hets. or possible hets. Babies produced from your boa to a normal BCI would bring about the same prices as normal BCI. Most people will not pay more for a 50% shot at anerythrism. This was a long repsonse, but it should have covered all bases. Good luck.
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Phil Goss
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