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Can someone please explain the difference between a Coral Albino and a Pastel Albino?

Much appreciated

Thanks

Sure, the coral albino line comes from other coral albinos. Not all offspring of corals are corals either. There are even albinos from coral lines that have lots of yummy orange, and are not coral albinos. There are lots of coral albino, and lots of regular albinos that masquerade as coral albinos.

To make a pastel albino, one or both parents must be a pastel, and the pastel colors MUST show through on the albino for it to be considered a pastel.

They are also not related, the pastel trait and the coral trait.
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Hey Caden do you know what distiguishing characteristics (or possibly pics) that the corals should have? ( i.e. speckling, etc.) Because it seems that there are some ads on kingsnake of coral albinos but they just seem like regular albinos to me. Do corals tend to color up later on in their lives? Thanks in advance

Yes they do have a lot of so-called Coral Albinos for sale that are plain jane albinos. Corals tend to start coloring up at about 6-9 months of age. Corals tend to have a red or pink blushing in the face and the pastel albinos tend to have an overall body coloration. There are a couple lines of Coral, Corals from Pete, Lipsticks from Tom and maybe the new red line in a couple of years

here is a lipstick sunglow from John Martino after one shed and check out the overall pinkish coloration to the head

and here are a couple of pastel albinos from Jeff, you prolly seen this one

and one more

hope it helps
Bob

I think you have to look at the bloodlines they come from to determine what they are. I know that doesn't really help looking at a snake in an ad. Some ads are for animals that are not corals but are being sold as corals. In some cases it is hard to tell because the snake is too young. I've even seen ads where they are even more mixed up. Some people do mix up pastels and corals, but there are hardly any pastel albinos or sunglows. Yes Corals develop color with age.
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There are only around 15 Pastel Albinos and Pastel Sunglows in existence. They, on average, are all very similar to each other. Some are certainly better than others but not as wide of margins as Corals seem to be. I have both. I have produced both. All the Pastel Albinos I have raised, have each gotten better with age except one male. That one male is not as orange at 5 1/2' as he was at 4'. Here is a shot I just took of him breeding tonight. Not much of a shot but you get the idea:

Here he was as a baby:

And another shot probably at his best:

Here was his brother breeding a year ago:

A picture of his seven foot long sister taken a few days ago:

Here is a shot of a Pastel Albino Sunglow taken when a few months old:

Here is one taken when about a year old:

And another shot taken just a few days ago at about 18 months of age:

These represent about 1/3 of the Pastel Albinos out there. Not very many I know but I am working on it and so are a whole mess of other folks with hets.

I don't know everything about the Corals for sure. But I do know that Corals are a lot more common. Corals have more pink up around the head vs. an overall pinkish turning orange cast. The Pastel Albinos tend to show an inverse of the normal pattern with the color. It will be interesting to see how these change as they get even larger and older. My Corals have looked their best at a smaller size than the Pastel Albinos. They are distinctly different just because of the different bloodlines I think.

I hope to have some babies from a different "Pastel" line this year. By the way, the other bloodline is the Lucy bloodline. The same bloodline that made up the first Boas in the East Bay Red Group long ago. I think they will look pretty good too but time will tell for sure.
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Those pastel albinos are insane.

Why are there so few Pastel Albino and Pastel Sunglow boas?

Are they "exclusively" out of a specific bloodline?

It seems like every year you'll see boas advertised as "Pastel Albinos". Are these not "true" Pastel Albino? Are the ones being advertised as Pastel Albinos just, "nice colored Albinos?"

Sorry for all the questions. It's just when you said there's only 15 in exsistance, I got confused as to what makes a Pastel Albino a "Pastel Albino".

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think the guy that made them is saying that. They are his creation, so he has had all the control over the true animals from his blood lines. Others may be similar in apperearance, but not that exact blood line, per se.
jsc

So, that means, there's only 15 Pastel Albinos/Sunglows from that bloodline.
That makes sense.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

...COMPLETELY unrelated to this thread I was thinking about pastels and corals the other day. I have always said to a certain friend of mine that nicer / redder looking adults would produce better albinos. As far as I understand the pastel thing they are pretty much just selectively bred red / orange / clean animals?

The whole coral thing has always seemed very vague to me. I have never quite understood the stuff that you hear about the so-called genetics of the coral line. It seems kind of hit and miss?

Now I may be wrong but I do wonder if the pastels are nothing more than extreme 'corals' or the corals are just 'bad' pastel albinos? If I had two red hets I would expect to produce some nice albinos (and hets). If I had very average looking hets, I would expect some pretty average albinos (and hets).

Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, I don't know
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Here are a couple pastels het albino from a Lucy line pastel x coral albino.

We have an extensive write-up on the coral trait on our website - just go to the InfoMorph! navigation link and then click on "The Coral Page".

For info on albino pastels, Jeff Ronne is THE MAN.

Pics of a few individuals from our 2006 Groovy-line coral albino litter follow:

At 17 months of age, these two are really starting to turn it on!

Thanks for looking!

Steve Reiners

www.BoaMorph.com