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I am looking to get a GTP, but have heard terrible things about their reputation. I want something that I will be able to handle or at least clean its cage without getting hit. I have a bunch of balls and they are tame. I will only get one or 2 GTP's. Is the breeding close to a balls? How large does a male have to be and how large does a female? With balls, a male has to be about a year old and a female should be about 2 years old. This is a rough estimate as their weights are more important than their age. Let me know, Thanks

I suggest considering a chondro only if you are happy having a "display only" animal and do not place a lot of importance on handling. With that said, many people have chondros that can be handled with little agression. There are just no guarantees when it comes to temperment. As far as cage cleaning goes, even my most aggressive animal will let me clean their cages as long as I do it during the day. Definitely helps to have cages with removable perches.

Bart

Thank you, but if you have to clean the perches then don't you have to remove the snake from the perch. Thanks

The friendliest GTP is Kofiau Locale, they're very tame, easy to handle.
Here the pictures :

with my son ( 2 years old )

My friendliest is my Sorong. She's tamer than even my cornsnakes.
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I do not routinely clean the perches, but yes, should I need to I would have to remove the animal. There are multiples ways to do this, even with less than tame animals. For me, routine cleaning is changing the water and substrate, both of which I can do without handling the animal. Again, if done during the day.

Every animal is different. Some are tolerable to handling and some aren't, regardless of the locale. If you get a chondro that will tolerate being handled, great, but be prepared with the possibility that you may end up with one that doesn't.

Bart

>>I am looking to get a GTP,
You should just get one... you'll thank me later.

but have heard terrible things about their reputation.
- this stems from old stories about WC animals.

I want something that I will be able to handle or at least clean its cage without getting hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0ldz45oeC0

I have a bunch of balls and they are tame.
-(insert joke here)

I will only get one or 2 GTP's.
- That's what we all say...

Is the breeding close to a balls?
- Incubation temps - sure.

How large does a male
-400 grams.

have to be and how large does a female?
-1000 grams.

With balls, a male has to be about a year old
-2.5ish for chondros.

and a female should be about 2 years old.
-4ish for chondros

This is a rough estimate as their weights are more important than their age.
-Young Chondros of breedable size will usually show little to no intrest in breeding if paired to early. You'll also be hard pressed to get a Female above 1000 grams in less than 3 years.

Let me know, Thanks
-Hope that helped.
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Julian Garcia
Chondros Exquisite
Seattle,WA

Very nice you answered my questions perfectly. I didn't like the joke about the balls unless you were about talking about my snakes, then its funny. Anyways I do not have the room for a bunch of chondros, just ball racks so I want a special 2. If you had to purchase only 2 chondros, male and female, and wanted to get what you think will be a tame pair with different, beautiful color, what would you get? Rememeber only 2. A year later you will not be purchasing anymore. Thanks, Julian

Mannie, I think you're underestimating the power of the chondro.lol. If you're looking for "tame" I would shoot for a jaya or sorong type. Most Biaks are high-strung and very flighty.

As for "special" color, it depends on what you are looking for and how much $ you want to spend. If you're looking for something with truly "special" color, then you will probably spend between $1500-6000 for a hatchling. If you just want a couple of nice bright green animals with some blue pattern, then a sorong or jaya would be perfect.

Remember, they CANNOT be sexed until they are around a year old or 100 grams. By this time, you're usually going to get a changed animal.....with the exception of biaks and some designers. What ever way you go, just plan on getting more. Listen to your inner chondro......20-something and counting.

Good luck.
Brandon Osborne

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Sorry. That should be Manny, not Mannie. Be would that lysdexia my.

Brandon Osborne
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I would definitely pick up a pair of changed yearlings. You will know what their disposition is and you can still spend a couple years growing them up and enjoying them all the way.

I think on the low end you will spend $500 for an entry level cbb sexed yearling, and $1 - 1.5k will probably start you in some of the designer lines for special changed yearlings.

Good luck, a real nice pair is a very good place to start with these.

For those of you with tamer GTP's, what kind of disposition did they have as neonates?