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Thought some might find this interesting...

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1430551,1431551

I believe Jeff said he's tried this supplement unsuccessfully on BRB's, but maybe it works for other species.

Gotta love those carotenoids...

Thanks,
Ed

where do i get that stuff, sounds alot like crack...
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As soon as your born you start dying...
So you might as well have a good time!!!

Violence is not the answers.
It is only the question
the answers is yes!

Tommorow we fight
tonight we party

... And if you die in an elevator remember to push the up button

...And death is lifes way of telling you your fired

...And theres a good reason why the road less traveled is less traveled

...Dreams are like rainbows, only idiots chase them(unless its a boa)

0.1 Tangerine albino leopard gecko typhon
0.0.1 Green tree python
0.1 Brazilian rainbow boa
0.1 evil sibling

I googled it, the company is based in Germany:

http://www.nekton.de/html/index_eng.html

But don't blame me if you get addicted to the stuff,
I just told you where you can get it...

Thanks,
Ed

>>where do i get that stuff, sounds alot like crack...
>>-----
>>As soon as your born you start dying...
>>So you might as well have a good time!!!
>>
>>Violence is not the answers.
>>It is only the question
>>the answers is yes!
>>
>>Tommorow we fight
>>tonight we party
>>
>>... And if you die in an elevator remember to push the up button
>>
>>...And death is lifes way of telling you your fired
>>
>>...And theres a good reason why the road less traveled is less traveled
>>
>>...Dreams are like rainbows, only idiots chase them(unless its a boa)
>>
>>
>>0.1 Tangerine albino leopard gecko typhon
>>0.0.1 Green tree python
>>0.1 Brazilian rainbow boa
>>0.1 evil sibling

Ed,
....That one poster over on the Indigo forum seems way too sure what in reality is just an opinion. When I used Nekton Rep Color I did not set up a control group and there was no way that I could have reasonably measured results. My unscientific impression was that the Nekton Rep Color made no difference. The babies I am producing today are noticeably more colorful but this is likely the result of selective breeding. However,.......after reading some of the links you posted over the last few months about color synthesis in animals I have recently been feeding carrots to my rats along with their Mazuri 5M30 Rodent Chow and occasional table scraps.
Jeff

>>Thought some might find this interesting...
>>
>>http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1430551,1431551
>>
>>I believe Jeff said he's tried this supplement unsuccessfully on BRB's, but maybe it works for other species.
>>
>>Gotta love those carotenoids...
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ed

so I guess carrots from Wally World it is

If you get some high-orange snakes from this, I get first
dibs! And you need to come clean Jack's cage!

>>so I guess carrots from Wally World it is

some high oranges but next year I will get a couple nice ones from Dave cuz he keeps all the great onesand one or two from Bryan and I could have a great outcrossing group but there is no telling I do plan to add next year

-a male hypo or female hypo with a sister het would be nice

- 3-5 nice normals from Dave and Brian with hopes of high reds and oranges but a really light one would be cool too

and that sounds like a lot of moolah (3.5k on up) so I better start saving I mean pay off Davefirst lol

hopefully I can get lucky on one of hypo pairings and pop out an anery but this can ONLY happen if my male het is a carrier and also either my hypo female is carrying it or my het female. Sounds like a big if but I like my chances. If my male is not a carrier than I will have to sell someone's kid (preferrably not mine) and get an anery male and prove out my females, nice chatting with you Ed
Bob

So your hypos and/or het for hypos might also be
het for anery? You gonna be the first to produce
a ghost???

Oh, btw, also feed/supplement your feeder rats spinach.

Thanks,
Ed

>>some high oranges but next year I will get a couple nice ones from Dave cuz he keeps all the great onesand one or two from Bryan and I could have a great outcrossing group but there is no telling I do plan to add next year
>>
>>-a male hypo or female hypo with a sister het would be nice
>>
>>- 3-5 nice normals from Dave and Brian with hopes of high reds and oranges but a really light one would be cool too
>>
>>and that sounds like a lot of moolah (3.5k on up) so I better start saving I mean pay off Davefirst lol
>>
>>hopefully I can get lucky on one of hypo pairings and pop out an anery but this can ONLY happen if my male het is a carrier and also either my hypo female is carrying it or my het female. Sounds like a big if but I like my chances. If my male is not a carrier than I will have to sell someone's kid (preferrably not mine) and get an anery male and prove out my females, nice chatting with you Ed
>>Bob

I have my money on Mr. Flavor himself. His hypo male #2 is het for anery also. When Mike and Robert Seib did a breeding loan in '06 Seib's anery female out popped two anery's (which in turn are also het hypo or anery het ghost). So if Mike has a hypo het anery and anery het hypo then 1/4 are ghosts and that should happen God willing in 09-10 season so my fingers are crossed for him. If indeed I have an anery pop out it will also be het for hypo. Dave's hypo Dottie is also fathered by the same male so she is also 50% anery so just got to prove those girls out and hope we get lucky that's all
Bob

Oh, The other Wally World, never mind.

>>so I guess carrots from Wally World it is

Jeff,

Oh, I know it's not proof of anything. This guy could be a loony bird for all I know. I just thought it was interesting, that's all.

Having said that, it could work for Indigos but not BRB's.
I wouldn't rule that out, pigmentation might work completely
different in Indigos.

After all the reading I've done and information (from people such as yourself) that I've tried to process, I actually don't believe that rainbow boas have as much erythrin as one would think (or as I originally thought.) My speculative opinion is
that if it's even possible to isolate the right carotenoid for
Rainbow Boas (there are hundreds of them!), I would expect it
would only enhance the color of the dorsal patterns and crescents.

But you made my day regarding the carrot diet. I hope it
works!! If not, at least your rats might be a nice shade
of orange.

Thanks,
Ed

>>Ed,
>>....That one poster over on the Indigo forum seems way too sure what in reality is just an opinion. When I used Nekton Rep Color I did not set up a control group and there was no way that I could have reasonably measured results. My unscientific impression was that the Nekton Rep Color made no difference. The babies I am producing today are noticeably more colorful but this is likely the result of selective breeding. However,.......after reading some of the links you posted over the last few months about color synthesis in animals I have recently been feeding carrots to my rats along with their Mazuri 5M30 Rodent Chow and occasional table scraps.
>>Jeff
>>
>>>>Thought some might find this interesting...
>>>>
>>>>http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1430551,1431551
>>>>
>>>>I believe Jeff said he's tried this supplement unsuccessfully on BRB's, but maybe it works for other species.
>>>>
>>>>Gotta love those carotenoids...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Ed