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I have a couple of questions about spiders that I hope someone could answer for me. First, do all spiders have the neurological problem in some way or another? Second, do all spder morphs have it or does outcrossing get rid of it? I never heard of the problem in 'bees'.

Thanks,
Dan

Hey,

Some spiders kind of turn their heads sideways and crawl around the cage in a sideways fashion as babies. I've seen it slightly in some spiders I've produced, but it's quickly gone away as the animals got over 200 grams.

Curious to hear if it continues in anyone's adults.

It is biologically impossible that this is neurological, as if it were, it could NOT go away with time. Nerve damage/defects are permanent, as nerve tissue does not have the capacity to regenerate. Count it as a cute quirky personality trait!

Spiders are known for being- voracious eaters, early breeders, and quick growers.

Enjoy!

Steve Harrison
Jacksonville, FL

My bee has a slight wiggle when he is holding his head up looking at things. No spinning, but he does go upside down to check out the top of his enclosure. He is right at 200g so it will be interesting to see if the wobble goes away.

Mine has the same thing as yours Jen. He kind of tilts his head and it shakes a little as he looks up. He doesn't do any of the stargazing or moving around on his side. It seems like it's going away, only time will tell though. BTW, thats one nice looking bee you have there. What line of pastel did you use?

Graziani - I got him from Southwest Wisconsin Reptiles.

Awww, is that Dash's baby pic?!?

My big spider boy came from Steve (above), and he's just under 800g right now. I have never seen him exhibit any of that weird behavior -- not even turning upside down to look at things or staring upwards. If he had it when he was young, then he's grown out of it at this point. He pretty much acts like all my other snakes -- other than the almost drowning himself thing. LOL!
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Pink Lady Constrictors

That must be Dash's dad, Dash doesn't have any spots on his sides. Different head pattern too. You're right, he does come from a great family line!

He's back in with this high-gold girl right now ^^^
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Pink Lady Constrictors

Hey,

It is indeed, Dash's DAD as a baby! Great eyes chica!

Stevo

You're incorrect about it being impossible to be neurological because it goes away with age.
The brain changes as a person/animal grows. A condition that was present in infancy can be changed simply by the brain's natural development and growth.
Sorry, just had to chime in.
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~Sara~
"If you look down on me, I am evil, If you look up to me, I am God, if you look straight at me, I Am you"
-Charles Manson

What type of condition? Are you speaking of neurological? I always learned in my college bio classes that nerves cannot regenerate, and that nerve damage was always permanent?

Could be wrong here, happens all the time!

Steve

You're correct when it concerns that happens when the brain is mature. But when it concerns infants, the brain is constantly changing, growing, etc. I'm saying that it is possible that that the growth of the brain, and the new connections being made in the brain fix the "problem". Then again, the more I think about it, you're right as well. I shouldn't have been so fast in my opinion/writing.
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~Sara~
"If you look down on me, I am evil, If you look up to me, I am God, if you look straight at me, I Am you"
-Charles Manson

You may be right as well during development- it's been years and I've forgotten more than I know! I just know they are the coolest morph and to see them pip out of those eggs...ohh!

I love spiders!

Steve H.

I love the way they look, but I'm more a burmese lover than a ball lover. I wish that burmese pythons came in "Spider".
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~Sara~
"If you look down on me, I am evil, If you look up to me, I am God, if you look straight at me, I Am you"
-Charles Manson

Weird neuro things can happen in adult animals also.. Snakes I'm not positive, but dogs & cats can have vestibular episodes as adults that resolve on their own for some crazy reason.

-Tami*

All spiders do have the problem, only the degree depends on the animal. Some have big spinning and wobbling their head,others only hide their head when approaching.
Also bees can have this but less then spiders.

I have one spider male, and did notice a star gaze when I first got him, as a baby. He is now 1.5 years old, and no longer does that. He also doesn't wobble, or turn over. I think that he just grew out of it. Hope this helps

all means all.........

suxx don't it.......

..........I'm hoping pins don't get it.........keep them more.........
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