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Leopard Morph Questions

cresswell Nov 24, 2007 01:36 AM

I have acquired a group of Leopard Boas and was curious as to what other people have been able to produce with this morph. I know there have been some incredible results with crossing Anery and Hypo phenotypes into the Leopard but does anyone know of other morphs that have been created?
I have Sunglow Coral Boas, Super Hypo Nics and Salmons that I am looking to add to the leopard trait and was wondering what phenotypic responses would come of such offspring. Would the Albino and Leopard interact with each other after double hets were bred together to produce albino leopards? Can you achieve the great colours found in Hypo nic's tails to be expressed through the heavy Leopard patterns? What would salmon do crossed with the Leopard gene? I am very interested in this project right now and have worked out some punnet's squares but am curious about exactly how the recessive Leopard trait would interact with these other morphs.

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DavidKendrick Nov 25, 2007 01:10 PM

If this is the same Cresswell that is into "pure" Diamond Pythons, I am surprised that you would not want to keep the Leopards "Pure" as well, as they are supposed to be a locality morph from Sonoran Desert Boas.

I know they are all BCI but to me it would be like purposly crossing a Coastal Carpet to a Diamond....

Just curious your thoughts.....If this is the Same Cresswell I would have thought keeping locality would be your priority...

Congrats on the new leopard project....they are very beautiful Boas...
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PBM Nov 25, 2007 02:57 PM

As far as being a definite locale, if you speak with Hans, he will tell you that he is not sure of them being Sonoran. There is another strain of leopard boas called black pearls or something which are a known locale from Costa Rica. It's probable that Hans' animals are also Costa Rican, both breeders do originate from Germany, it's hard to say where all the animals originally came from that are in the two collections. If you're going to stay "pure", you have to figure out which definition you accept..pure Central American, even though Sonora would be in North America, or are you looking strictly at other Sonorans? If so, you have hypos and anerys, not much else to go into. They've already been crossed into hypos, salmons, anerys, albinos, etc. They are after all, a morph and the logical progression is to combine them with other morphs. Now days, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't! As far as how it will work, just like any other recessive. If you go to an albino, you'll have DH Albino Leopards. Then you'll be on your way to producing albino leopards, which will have the leopard pattern in albino form. One nice aspect is that some of the het leopards are rather abberant and make nice looking animals. Best of luck with your group.

cresswell Nov 25, 2007 10:07 PM

Haha, I get that a lot, we use the same name on two different forums. I am his younger brother, he loves pythons and me Boas. I hear what you are saying about the locality morph of Sonora. And it is a beautiful one in its own right, I wouldn't have bought them if it weren't. Right now I also have some Sonoran Hypos he wants me to breed with them, but I am itching to see Sunglow and T Albino worked in there too.
It might be a non-locale specific move to mix Central Americans into this project but for me CA and Sonoran Boas are the same size, are close enough and I am not into inbreeding so I feel it would be good to cross out the Leopard genetics to some CA strains. I mean we have seen the leopard but not when combined with that awesome CA Super hypo, blood, CA T Albino, nor Sunglow, so you and my brother may call me a "mutt maker" but I mean its not that bad for the results I will get. And also I am staying in the general region of this boa, same general size, and same subspecific order. I mean I am not going to make hypo-jaguar-diamond-jungle-irian jaya-bredls right?

Warren_Booth Nov 26, 2007 12:34 PM

I am hoping to combine the leopard trait with my line of sonoran anerythristics in a few years. This year its the dh true sonoran ghosts however.

Warren
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Dr Warren Booth
North Carolina State University
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3309 Gardner Hall
Raleigh, NC 27695-7613

PBM Nov 26, 2007 04:24 PM

That's a project I'd LOVE to get started here. Best of luck to you. If you succeed, sooner or later we'll all get to enjoy it. Keep us posted.

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