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Wondering if anyone produced a super cinnamon/black pastel albino...would this just be an all white snake? Just curious.
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0.1 Normal Cornsnake
1.0 Sumatran Short Tail Python
2.3 Ball Pythons (2 normals, 2 pastel and 1 ?)

What characteristics of a cinny or black pastel would make you think that the super form would be an all-white snake?
The only reason I ask is that the super form of a cinny is an all black snake, or very close.
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of the super. so far it has not been made. there was rumors that the Bells made one this past season but according to them, they didn't make one. so it was either just a rumor or the baby came out tweaked/kinked and didn't make it or they are just keeping it a secret. Gulf Coast should hit it this year as they have a couple breeder black pastel albino males and several black pastel het albino females so we will get to see it this year more than likely. Also there are a few other breeders that have albino cinnys and I'm sure alot of people working with black pastel het albinos.

In my opinion it will turn out mostly white/very pale yellow but getting more and more yellow as it ages. Either way I think it will be a very cool looking snake but I do hope it isn't solid white as there are quicker ways to produce them.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

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I have always wondered the same thing, on a normal Ball the Dark/black areas are white on the albino right? and the lighter areas (Alien Heads) are the orange on the albino right?

So I guess it would all depend on if the super version of the Cinnamon/Blacks is patternless (meaning the lighter parts are showing) or if the solid part of the snake would be considered the black parts which would mean it would be an All white snake, but for some reason I keep venturing to the side of it being more an all light orange/yello Ball....almost like an Albino Patternless Ball....

I think its going to be a solid Orange/Yellow Ball Python....
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Executive Reptiles
Amanda Kingsbury & David Kendrick
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I think it would be yellow with an orange hint to it. I sure hope its not another white snake because we already have enough of those around. I can't wait to see what one looks like.

Because super cinnies and Black Pastels are not totally black, my guess would be a very very light/pale yellow snake. However, a white snake obviously wouldn't be a surprise either. It will be fun to see how it turns out and it is this kind of thing that makes this game so much fun!
Grant

So a super cinny caramel albino might throw an all cream colored snake and super cinny lavander albino would be an all purple snake? That would be amazing!
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0.1 Normal Cornsnake
1.0 Sumatran Short Tail Python
2.3 Ball Pythons (2 normals, 2 pastel and 1 ?)

It's possible, IMO. I guess we'll know more when we see the albino super cinny. Whatever happens with the super, the albino cinny and albino black pastel are both cool looking. That's why I love cinnies/black pastels. I think they have tons of combo potential.

Shelly

What you said makes sense to me.

The SuperCinny/BlkPastel is patternless and showing the ground colour. (dark brown or black)

The 'opposite' of the SuperCinny/BlkPastel are the patternless animals that Ralph Davis and VPI each have. (Two seperate, imported lines.)

The VPI/RDR Patternless show the pattern or lighter colour. (tan or goldish brown)

I'd expect an Albino Super Cinny to be off-white or light yellow and the Albino RDR/VPI Patternless to be a darker yellow or yellow-orange.

Now, just imagine that mixed in with other morphs....

Lav Albino Super Cinny ... solid-coloured purple Ball??
Lav Albino VPI/RDR Patternless ... solid-coloured peach-orange Ball??

Axanthic Super Cinny ... solid-coloured dark, silky black Ball??
VPI/RDR Patternless ... solid-coloured light gray or silver Ball??

And on and on...

I`m anxious to see the various 'Patternless/SuperCinn' combos in the coming years.

BB

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"Have you hugged your drummer today?" --- Me

like I said earlier we should get to see the albino super black pastel this season comming possibly by a few breeders and GCR also should have multiple chances at hitting the axanthic super black pastel as well. If the actual color of the super black pastel is actually just dark brown then the albino will be a shade of yellow/orange and the axanthic should be a shade of silver. If the base color is actually black then the albino version will be white and the axanthic version should be a really true black snake since the axanthic trait should get rid of the brown wash. Exciting times in the next few years.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons, boas, dogs, cats, fish, an amel tiger retic female, a couple sulcatas and a few other odds and ends.

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!