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Hey guys... just wanted to share some pictures of this little guy I picked up today. They're not the best, but I was just so excited about him... Let me know what you think!

'05 Sunglow Motley


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-Jaime Palma
Mad-City Constrictors

That is not a Little Guy! What a great looker!

Hahaha... I guess not. We measured him out at just short of 4 feet. I have big plans for him this season...
Thanks!
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-Jaime Palma
Mad-City Constrictors

He is awsome looking.
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My inside problems only effect the outside world....And I am ok with that.

Yeah, that's a good one. Here's one of mine:

Third Eye

That is a beautiful snake.
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My inside problems only effect the outside world....And I am ok with that.

Mine seems to be really diffused compared to yours... is that much variance normal? Just wondering. The guy that sold him to me didn't seem to know a whole lot about him... he was sold as just a Sunglow, but if you look close he looks motley and his belly is solid white.
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-Jaime Palma
Mad-City Constrictors

As a general rule-of-thumb, motley and striped corns have solid white bellies. "Sunglow" is used to describe an amel corn with no white in its pattern. I've seen some "color saturated" sunglows like yours, where the pattern blends in with the background, as well as some "high contrast" examples, where the pattern is more defined.

So yeah, I think you're right about there being different "looks" to sunglow motleys.

I think age plays a factor as well. Many corns get more "muted" in coloration as they get older.

Tim

Third Eye

I was under the impression that the hypo gene was also involved in Sunglows, not just amel. Is that correct?
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-Jaime Palma
Mad-City Constrictors

"Sunglow" is used to describe boas that are hypo and albino. For corns it just needs to be amel with no white.

Terminology in snake morphs doesn't always "cross over." A "ghost" Ball Python means "hypo," but a "ghost" Corn means hypo and anery.

Crazy stuff.

Tim

When I first named sunglow motlies, it was because of the intense color saturation of my line of these gems. Nine out of ten of all amel motlies have no white on them, so the main reason I named mine SUNGLOWS was not because of the no-white feature of most amel motlies, but because of the deep red/orange colors. Virtually all of mine have solid coloration. That is, the ground coloration is rarely interrupted by different shades of color. Likewise the markings are usually solidly colored, without the stippling of shades you see in most albino corns.

My original breeders were homozygous hypomelanistic. I can't say that's what enhanced their colors, because in the past 13 years of nurturing this line, I've mixed other unrelated, intensely orange ones into the tribe, not knowing if they were hypo or not. Shrug? Whatever the reasons for the great colors of sun motlies, they're my top sellers, AND one of the most reliably predictable looking morphs I've worked with.

South Mountain Reptiles

So Don... I'm correct in calling mine a motley sunglow by your standards? He's almost uninterrupted bright orange, with some red saddles peaking through towards the end of his body, and a pure white belly.
Thanks!
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-Jaime Palma
Mad-City Constrictors

Sure, the color saturation on your's is off the charts. Those deep colors (regardless of two-tone contrast) is precisely what prompted me to call them sunglow motlies. More to the point, the colors on your snake are not interrupted with stippling of other shades of orange or red.

Resolution is bad on this old pic, but here's one with low contrast, like your's. BTW, while most sunglow (and amel) motlies have white bellies, some do not. They will lack checkering, but some can have a great deal of orange on their bellies.

Don

South Mountain Reptiles

So in reading what Don has said, i don't think this would be considered a "Sunglow Motley" rather should be called an "Amel Motley"? Just trying to get things straight!

That's how I would define it, but I'm by no means an expert... I just got a lucky find at a show.
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-Jaime Palma
Mad-City Constrictors