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FatScales Nov 26, 2007 11:20 PM

Can anyone tell me San Diego or Sonoran gopher?

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FatScales Nov 26, 2007 11:21 PM

here is one over the top.

DISCERN Nov 26, 2007 11:30 PM

My first guess would be Sonoran.

Gorgeous snake!!!!!!!!!!
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FatScales Nov 26, 2007 11:35 PM

they had him as a san diego gopher but i didnt think so either, he just ate last night so i didnt want to pull him out, ill take pics of my other two snakes tomorrow the ones i took tonight were blurred from the lighting and the wifey is prego and mad so no time for more pics.

derekdehaas Nov 27, 2007 08:50 AM

yep a very nice sonoran!

reako45 Nov 27, 2007 06:26 PM

I'd say Sonoran, cuz that snake seems to have the same colors as other albino Sonorans I've seen. Dosal patterns a bit different (more mottled) than the Sonorans we see from the wild here in CA & AZ.

reako45

Nokturnel Tom Nov 28, 2007 08:46 PM

It looks like the other line of Albinos.........other meaning not Envy stock. If it is, the gene is not compatible with Envy stock. Some of us are trying to get the name Red Albinos to stick for that line. It is really nice looking. Tom Stevens
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fatscales Nov 28, 2007 08:59 PM

So, your saying breeding this guy to an envy albino female would produce hets for both? not that im planning on doing it, its just good to know.

Nokturnel Tom Nov 28, 2007 10:26 PM

Exactly, I know Jason at Envy is already exprimenting with this Albino as we hope it will create a new type of Snow/Blizzard. The Albinos won't align and make more Albinos but maybe the Red Albino and Envy Ghost will make a new White snake?
Tom Stevens
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BRhaco Nov 26, 2007 11:52 PM

no post
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Brad Chambers

The Avalanche has already started-it is too late for the pebbles to vote....

skronkykong Nov 27, 2007 01:56 PM

It could be a mix of the two, but my guess would be sonoran.

justinian2120 Nov 28, 2007 03:45 PM

in both color and pattern.....e.g.the red says affinis-the white says annectens(S.D.)....pattern looks mostly sonoran but again i do see some san diego influence-i'd suspect it's an intergrade,a pretty one.
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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

justinian2120 Nov 28, 2007 03:48 PM

...check out the anterior blotches,see how their sides run together-if i remember correcetly the taxonomic name for san diego gophers,'annectens',means 'chain-like'.
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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

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