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She is one powerful milksnake.

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hope I spelled drymarchon correctly.......duh.....?.....

.....that isn't under 40 inches......cripes.......

........do they like it let's say at 75 degrees to 79?......I need stuff for the bottom of the racks.....

..nice snake.......better than nigritus.....close (or the same) as indigos........(eat one rat crap 6 times)LOL
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They will do fine at that temp. These are the ultimate easy snakes to care for. They never, ever refuse food, they are very laid back and thrive at a wide temp range.

I used to keep hondos at 85 or so then found out (I hope this is correct) that they actually like it cooler at least after they grow a little .....so I put them on the bottom box and they did find.......(Damm line hondos "het" for striped )

........I got rid of them awhile ago, but just got a pair of hypos .......

.......Thanxx ,,,JY
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Amazing triangulum you have there - think I know who's the boss in your house....thanx for posting!
Jeff

might get the reds a little bigger?....not so much hasstle to get them on pinks....hell...fuzzies out of the egg.....

......?..........gaigeae x elapsoides?......not!...

.........I saw a nice big male scarlet at Hamburg also Jeff......wish I would have grabbed it.......hoping it's at another show........I always wanted to cross scarlet with an eastern and see if it actually looks anyhting like a coastal at all........

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I'm just always stinkin.
Talk to Tony D about crossing easterns with elaps or elaps with tempos, he's sure to know somebody trying it.
I do like the idea of a syspila/micropholis cross...now there's a freakin hybrid!
Jeff

>>Talk to Tony D about crossing easterns with elaps or elaps with tempos, he's sure to know somebody trying it.

There was a guy in Alabama that did the scarlet king x eastern milk cross about 10 or 12 years ago... if I remember correctly his name was Martin? Anyone else remember? Ken

Wow......I thought at least one of you guys would try it every year........man........

so what is the thought on integrating /hybridizing sub-species of triangulum?.........not the normal stuff .....like really odd mixes?........

(for the record...I tried stuff like sinaloae x campbelli, and campbelli x anulata, nelsoni x something maybe.....NONE would breed....they didn't like each other......the only thing that did breed and lay was the stuarti female that lost her mate.....she bred the Damm male hondo......).......so it proves they are smarter than we think if Mexican stuff doesn't even want to inter-breed.........

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why would you breed a stuarti to a honduran? just wondering don't throw mud I am just not getting it.I have some snakes that I have had for up to 11 years that I have never bred because I couldn't match them up. I just don't see the point of making Hybrids that will probably later on get passed on as pure hondos etc....Was it just cause you wanted to see babies hatch or what?
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Shannon

again, this is not a attack I am just missing something.

Also, I for one would rather see a pueblan x cal king (imperial pueblan or whatever they call them) on the market cause there is NO Doubt that its a mutt. When crossing allot of these triangulum sometimes its like splitting hairs to I.D. them.

L8r

I get it........

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It was just a few months ago when someone posted a picture over on the kingsnake forum. It said somethign like "how do you like my cal king?"

After numerous cudous by many experienced keepers on his high white cal king, he dropped the bomb that actually it was 25% pueblan, and none of us would have ever known.

you guys don't mix much......

I know you really don't Shannon........read the web-site of yours......and a few others in here will [bleep] a fit...

why?.....had 1.2 stuarti and 1.1 died and had the female....bred it to hodo just for kids.......sorry........my snakes mostly work........make some money or get sold....sorry....I have limited space and time ....

......I have kept eastern hogs that ate mice from my hand and were black as black.....never bred her.......I have kept a male eastern milk for 10 years and then after getting a female from under the same rock 10 years later....the male died before breeding .......hmmm.....I have had alot of single cool snakes that I didn't breed.....

and hondos are mixed up alot anyways?.......am I correct ? on this......Polyzona amels that Barczyck had that turned out to be hondos anyways ,,, even after he bred them to Poly for a few years before finding out what they really were???...

....I don't mind hybrids , sorry......most stuff gets sold as pets alot........people around here really don't know how to breed , even if they try, ,,,and the breeders here weren't into hondos or milks actually.....friends with elapids, pituophis and some brooksi and a few corns....others into boas etc....

I always sold stuff as it was.....hybrids were sold as such.........Pa show crowds just look at the price........really....they suck......

had quatro kings from ? Gillingham maybe...4 way king crosses...really cute too......had sinaloae xcal king x corns.......had cali x nigritus.....yellowx glades,,,black rat x yellows....,,,bred a chondro male to a jungle carpet yet no eggs from her for 10 years.....etc etc

.....I know..there are alot of mixed things out there.....some we have no idea what they are.......like I said....hybrids just don't bother me..........and the locality thing is good for the hobby also........yet I would buy cool snakes that weren't local if I liked them........

........I buy both ......local and non.....don't think I have any hybrids ...[bleep]....wait....I got ultramel and ultra corns...they put grey rat in them a few years ago.(corns)....screwed the whole attitude up...I hate them all.....
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LOL,, I hear you man. And yes the hondos are all screwed up so now its just a hobby term in my mind.Hobby Hondurans but they will never be hondurensis in my eyes.

L8r

I work with people from Guatemala, El Salvador,Puerto Rico, Dominica, Viet Nam,Colombia,Korea,Sudan,Virgin Is., Bahamas,Mexico,Cuba,Cambodia,Peru,Egypt, .......and probably alot more.even a few from the US of A....LOL..............sorry...........never heard of anyone being from Honduras.......

...........I have asked....the Guatemalan and Mexicans are all "scared of snakes actually"........at least for the most part.........I try and get them to bring me presents when they go home for family visits......I tell them anything pretty or with red or orange is a big plus

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the biggest "UNIVERSAL" language there is!..LOL

Heck, nobody can name a place on earth where the majority of people ARE NOT deathly afraid of snakes!......if the vast majority of folks in the US are totally snake ignorant, just imagine how ignorant and uninformed they are in those third-world countries!....I bet some of the "wives-tales" regarding snakes are REALLY funny from other countries,....judging by how ridiculous they are from a so-called "well-educated" country like ours!

I would just LOVE to hear some of THEIR "tall-tales"!!..LOL

maybe some 25ft constricting vipers, etc...

A while back, I had some black guy tell me about a "chicken snake" he saw up in his kitchen cabinets. He told me that they were attracted to lactating women, and that's why it was found coiled up on the cans of baby formula in the cabinet!. I replied,...."No, they are NOT attracted to lactating women, OR the cans of baby formula!,....but they ARE attracted to all the mice and rats you apparently have in your house!..LOL......man, you should have heard all the laughter coming from the other guys that were around to hear the silly conversation!...we were all in "stitches"!!!

best regards, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

....and excellent shots,the way you caught that irridescence,wow.....and all that from roughly 1% genetic variation throughout the species-mind blowing,huh?
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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

Awesome pics! You've really captured their beauty and size with those. I love the close up of the scales that show how huge the scales are.

I let an adult pair go early last year and then got them back I missed them so much! I'll never let them go again!

Dave

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