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Dniles Dec 04, 2007 08:07 PM

Here is a sweet triangulum Mike Collalto and I caught back in June in Western NY. This little guy was out sunning on a rock in plain sight!

Dave

DNS Reptiles

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Jeff Hardwick Dec 04, 2007 09:21 PM

The eastern has to be the most 'overlooked and unloved' milk in the US. I just added a few to the collection and find them wonderful and very well behaved! Not much flash but really easy going snakes.
Wait, I saw some easterns in a serpentarium outside of Toronto and those guys had orange between the brown saddles but I wasn't able to take pics... dang it!
Nice example of a NE eastern Dave!
Jeff

jawn Dec 05, 2007 12:30 AM

Jeff do you know the place near Toronto where you saw the snakes? There's a slight chance I could get a pic of them. I have seen some photos from fellow herpers in that general area and was quite impressed also with the bright earthy coloration of the adults. I'll try to find some pics.

Eastern's are a beautiful species but we aren't allowed to keep them here ... its too bad for the responsible keepers but good for the wild populations I'm sure.

These first three Easterns are from about 3 hours northwest of Toronto .. basically on Lake Huron. I found these 2 adults under the first rock I flipped that day then nothing for at least an hour!

Here are some habitat shots .. Lake huron is in the background of the first shot. I found milks up and down this cliff as close as 25 feet from the lake. They were actually inbetween the pond and the lake in the 3rd photo. This pond was full of newts with no frogs or toads in sight.

Here is a photo of an Eastern that my dad took near the north shore of Lake Erie. Shows some interesting colour but not too spectacular and not too easy to see as he was probably shaking with fear when he took this photo!

Here is the first adult milk I ever found kindof by accident. He was in a bag of potting soil outside.

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Jon Wedow
Sharp Dressed Snakes

Tony D Dec 05, 2007 07:34 AM

Great post. Love those northern habitat shots.

Jeff Hardwick Dec 05, 2007 10:35 AM

It may have been the Toronto Zoo rehabbing lab that had the orange eastern (June this summer). Nice people and very much in need of more space.
Great looking huge easterns you've posted and as I understood from the Zoo guys, there's only 4 healthy (self sustaining) and disjunct populations of LTt in Canada now and a US/Toronto bridge project will doom one of the sites.
Same old story: don't disturb them, don't keep and breed them but the bulldozers can disturb them every time.
There was another cool serpentarium about an hour out of Toronto with a small group of venomous and some odds and ends. Very nice guy owned it and took us through the collection. No eastern milks tho....
Jeff

Sunherp Dec 05, 2007 09:27 AM

Cool find, Dave. I find that field herping and working with my captives compliment one another nicely.

-Cole

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